Time distance between keyframes - Page 2

Arnold Gallardo · October 19th, 2006

Ok so you do want to animate in Max BEFORE all the radiosity is done or AFTER? What I mean is u want to have all the keyframes intact BEFORE you actually do any 'solution processing'? For most people all the animation is done AFTER the .ls file is imported into max. I am sorry I am still not clear on what you want to do

del82 · October 19th, 2006

o.k. heres the workflow.
I import dxf. file in Lightscape, define materials, lights, textures...initate. Radiostity calculations starts. When its "finished" models is illuminated.
Now I want to define camera keyframes, path, where to look, inside of Lightscape.
But since Im not very happy with camera options in Lightscape I was thinking if its possible maybe to import ls. file in Max, define camera keyframes, path inside of Max, then export animation path back to Lightscape and render animation in Lightscape.

Arnold Gallardo · October 19th, 2006

Thanks for the clarification. However, sorry you can't do this. You cannot EXPORT out of Max an .ls file. Why? because the moment you introduce ANYTHING, any change in a .ls (solution file) it BECOMES an .lp (prepration) file. This is why I told you form the very beginning that you should treat Lightscape as a 'radiosity plugin' for Max/Viz.

Sorry but it is the nature of .ls to not have any changes done even if it is only animation. The key here is to have somebody be able to export From Max an .la (lightscape animation file) based on the keyframes in Max/Viz.

Unless Hmm you have the patience of exporting EVERY FRAME in the max animation out as a .VW file? This is similar to what originally done by somebody in Lightscape to show an animation of a door opening. Too bad I forgot his name now LOL

For those oldies in LVS, this was the animation that opened a off screen door showing a surfboard on Lightscape's old website. back there is was just done with a lot of .ls files rendered as a single frame.

I take it that you don't like the way max/viz renders the .ls file? You're not alone

I hope this answer your question.

del82 · October 19th, 2006

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Originally Posted by Arnold Gallardo

The key here is to have somebody be able to export From Max an .la (lightscape animation file) based on the keyframes in Max/Viz.

Yes thats what I want.
Just to export .la file from Max back to Lightscape.
I though Chistians (Sismograph) script comes in the game here?!

Arnold Gallardo · October 19th, 2006

http://www.cgtechniques.com/goodies/ls_la_exporter.php

Yes I am sorry I forgot about this maxscript. I have only used it in Max 5.1 tho since I render my animation in Lightwave 5.6 (yeah I know very old) but I like the way it renders my .ls files vs Max.

I'd do some tests and let you know

Ok the maxscript works but not always. Sometimes there is a discrepancy in the imported .ls as far as 'scale' goes. Myabe somebody who has used this in Max7/8 can shed more light with this issue.

del82 · October 19th, 2006

Maybe the author - Christian - we are waithing for your answer:-)

del82 · October 21st, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold Gallardo

[url]I'd do some tests and let you know

Is it working?

Arnold Gallardo · October 22nd, 2006

The export of .la file works and its input to max but as I said, when it it imported into LVS, the scale of the imported camera path spline is larger than the .lp file. I have to find out if this is a LVS reference Null issue or something else. But at least there is this path that you can use which is to animate in Max and render in LVS.

del82 · October 23rd, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnold Gallardo

the scale of the imported camera path spline is larger than the .lp file

Arnie, sorry for my bad english, but what do you mean by this?

rpict · October 23rd, 2006

there is also a handmade/script method for that purpose.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/2747-a...ightscape.html

good luck

October 19th, 2006	#11 (permalink)
Arnold Gallardo Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York Posts: 225 Name: Arnold Gallardo	Re: Time distance between keyframes Ok so you do want to animate in Max BEFORE all the radiosity is done or AFTER? What I mean is u want to have all the keyframes intact BEFORE you actually do any 'solution processing'? For most people all the animation is done AFTER the .ls file is imported into max. I am sorry I am still not clear on what you want to do __________________ _ _ ______________ _ _ Arnold Gallardo Visual Content Creator Technical Writer Author:'3D Lighting: History,Concepts and Techniques' Last edited by Arnold Gallardo; October 19th, 2006 at 02:41 AM.

October 19th, 2006	#12 (permalink)
del82 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Croatia Age: 74 Posts: 513 Name: Mario Pende	Re: Time distance between keyframes o.k. heres the workflow. I import dxf. file in Lightscape, define materials, lights, textures...initate. Radiostity calculations starts. When its "finished" models is illuminated. Now I want to define camera keyframes, path, where to look, inside of Lightscape. But since Im not very happy with camera options in Lightscape I was thinking if its possible maybe to import ls. file in Max, define camera keyframes, path inside of Max, then export animation path back to Lightscape and render animation in Lightscape. __________________ Beeeee!

October 19th, 2006	#13 (permalink)
Arnold Gallardo Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York Posts: 225 Name: Arnold Gallardo	Re: Time distance between keyframes Thanks for the clarification. However, sorry you can't do this. You cannot EXPORT out of Max an .ls file. Why? because the moment you introduce ANYTHING, any change in a .ls (solution file) it BECOMES an .lp (prepration) file. This is why I told you form the very beginning that you should treat Lightscape as a 'radiosity plugin' for Max/Viz. Sorry but it is the nature of .ls to not have any changes done even if it is only animation. The key here is to have somebody be able to export From Max an .la (lightscape animation file) based on the keyframes in Max/Viz. Unless Hmm you have the patience of exporting EVERY FRAME in the max animation out as a .VW file? This is similar to what originally done by somebody in Lightscape to show an animation of a door opening. Too bad I forgot his name now LOL For those oldies in LVS, this was the animation that opened a off screen door showing a surfboard on Lightscape's old website. back there is was just done with a lot of .ls files rendered as a single frame. I take it that you don't like the way max/viz renders the .ls file? You're not alone I hope this answer your question. __________________ _ _ ______________ _ _ Arnold Gallardo Visual Content Creator Technical Writer Author:'3D Lighting: History,Concepts and Techniques' Last edited by Arnold Gallardo; October 19th, 2006 at 03:12 AM.

October 19th, 2006	#15 (permalink)
Arnold Gallardo Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York Posts: 225 Name: Arnold Gallardo	Re: Time distance between keyframes http://www.cgtechniques.com/goodies/ls_la_exporter.php Yes I am sorry I forgot about this maxscript. I have only used it in Max 5.1 tho since I render my animation in Lightwave 5.6 (yeah I know very old) but I like the way it renders my .ls files vs Max. I'd do some tests and let you know Ok the maxscript works but not always. Sometimes there is a discrepancy in the imported .ls as far as 'scale' goes. Myabe somebody who has used this in Max7/8 can shed more light with this issue. __________________ _ _ ______________ _ _ Arnold Gallardo Visual Content Creator Technical Writer Author:'3D Lighting: History,Concepts and Techniques' Last edited by Arnold Gallardo; October 19th, 2006 at 04:45 AM.

October 19th, 2006	#16 (permalink)
del82 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Croatia Age: 74 Posts: 513 Name: Mario Pende	Re: Time distance between keyframes Maybe the author - Christian - we are waithing for your answer:-) __________________ Beeeee!

October 22nd, 2006	#18 (permalink)
Arnold Gallardo Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York Posts: 225 Name: Arnold Gallardo	Re: Time distance between keyframes The export of .la file works and its input to max but as I said, when it it imported into LVS, the scale of the imported camera path spline is larger than the .lp file. I have to find out if this is a LVS reference Null issue or something else. But at least there is this path that you can use which is to animate in Max and render in LVS. __________________ _ _ ______________ _ _ Arnold Gallardo Visual Content Creator Technical Writer Author:'3D Lighting: History,Concepts and Techniques'

October 23rd, 2006	#20 (permalink)
rpict Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 46 Name: Gaudenz Jehli	Re: Time distance between keyframes there is also a handmade/script method for that purpose. http://www.cgarchitect.com/vb/2747-a...ightscape.html good luck

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