padhia

hello, i am ordering a new computer. the people at dell tell me that the dual core xeon is far superior in speed to the core 2 duo. another advantage would be that with the system that is built with the dual core xeon can be expanded to 2 processors. i have heard great things about the core 2 duo, and i have heard people say that the dual core xeon is junk. could someone please help me , i am a 3d artists but not very well versed in techincal computer jargon, so please simplify your answers. which on should i choose: core 2 duo or dual core xeon? thank you very kindly for any help you may provide.

Antisthenes

things don't look setteled yet

but look at these 2 benchmarks i just found

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/a...1157/13591.png

http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/mi...ench200607.png
lower better

new stuff comming out and more tests to be done and looked at.

any choice you make will certianly blow your mind compared to anything from the past.

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AJLynn

The Dell people are trying to get you to pay more. Basically:

-Pentium 4, Pentium D and Xeon chips that do not have a 4-digit model number beginning with 51 or 53 are based on the obsolete "Netburst" technology and are crap.
-51xx Xeons are Xeon versions of Core2 Duo (dual core) CPUs.
-53xx Xeons are Xeon versions of Core2 Quad (quad core) CPUs.

A Xeon is not much faster, and in many cases not any faster at all, than a consumer version (Pentium or Core2) of the same generation with the same clock speed (the GHz number). For example, a Xeon 5150 is a dual-core 2.66GHz chip that is about equal in speed to a 2.66GHz Core2 Duo E6700.

A Xeon costs more than an equivalent Core2, and requires a more expensive motherboard and RAM, making the computer a good bit more expensive.

However, there are two advantages to the Xeon:
-You can get a dual-socket Xeon motherboard that allows two Xeons in one system. This is not to be confused with dual cores - you get that with either option, but with Xeons you can use two dual-core at a time for 4 cores total, or 2 quad-cores for 8 cores total. This is not possible with Core2 chips. (But two of those Xeon 5150 2.66GHz chips, 4 cores total, would not give you appreciably more speed than one Core2 Quad QX6700, 2.66GHz, 4-core chip, which is a much cheaper option.)
-Xeons systems, because they are sold as server or workstations systems, usually are built with better components.

So, unless you have some specific reason to buy Xeon, buy Core2. For example, if your budget is huge and you want the most power you can possibly get in one box, buy a system with two Xeon 53xx CPUs, which would be 8 cores total. But if you want to spend, say, $2000 and get the most you can for that, you should get a Core2.

padhia

thank you for the time it took you to explain that. i really appreciate it!

Antisthenes

core2quad chips jan 1*th.

also those new AMD quad core chips today.

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AJLynn

Those AMDs are dual-core but can go 2 per MB. At least AMD's staying in the game, but they've still got nothing to go against dual-quad Xeons or consumer quad cores.

vodka79

The heat issue is going to be a disadvantage for AMD's new quad core.

anvaraziz

if ur going to make a high end core2duo machine with core2duo xtream edition processor. ill tell u to compare price with dual xeon 51** series.



core2duo X6800 (2.93 Ghz) = 999$

Xeon 5130 x 2 ( 2ghz X 2 ) = 316 x 2 (632$)

isnt that extra Ghz help on rendering time,,, ?

mother board and Ram 'll be costly than normal consumer products, but take a look on both rig and compare the price before u take a final decision..

take a look on this article, its little old but might be usefull,
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...002&cid=2&pg=4


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AJLynn

The X6800 is at the crazy place on the price/performance curve - way at the end where the price shoots up and the performance goes up a little. Keep in mind that these are dual-core chips, so with the Core2 you've got 5.86GHz total and with the dual Xeon you've got 8GHz total. Also keep in mind that the Xeon motherboards cost more, and so does the RAM, so price out complete systems first.

But yes, the extra GHz would be helpful, depending on what software you use.

okmijun

SOMEBODY HELP PLEASE...........

-Whats the differencies beetween
Q6600 and XEON 3220???

Same clock, same FSB, same cashe........what is not same?

I have to make decision in next few days, so please help me!