vizwhiz

The ASAI contest 22 entry deadline has been extended To Friday 12/07

i noticed That The 623 area code is in Arizona They must have moved
so i called These people just yesterday and This is what They Told me

just some info

and it is open To CG also

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randy

Maxer

The problem with this contest is you have to pay to enter it, I did that once and I'll never do it again. Also if you look at the winners of last years competition most them were done old style (not CG) so it makes me think their more interested in traditional art work than CG stuff.

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scotty

Not so my friend, not so. Many selected images are in fact digitally based. It doesn't matter the media, it is the message anyway. this year the highest honer was bestowed upon a digital piece, see the article on this site about Dennis Allain. Simple room studies would not suffice. These are awards for illustration, not modeling or painting ability.

Digital realism, digital work posing as traditional style, digital and traditional blended together are all well represented here. The membership fee is easily realized in exposure to the world. Lots of folks use this a way to identify and then to contact an illustrator, should that work be of a professional level.

Just a thought. Old style? Hmmmmm.

Scott Erstad
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Maxer

What exposure do you receive; the only images that are published are the AIP winners? Unless you win every time you enter I don't see how you get your money's worth.

As for those that win, out of the 60 images that made it into AIP21 about 10% of them are what I would consider CG the rest are hand drawn or have that hand drawn look.

We may be disagreeing about what CG is, the line has definitely been blurred due to the use of PhotoShop and other 2D computer drawing programs. It is possible to create "old style" images on the computer so perhaps I should have said that it seems like the ASIA is more interested in traditional hand drawn or hand painted imagery.

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Ernest Burden

Not that there's anything wrong with it!

That has been my experience.

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Brian Cassil

Exept for the part about Asians I would agree. ASAI does seem to promote traditional style much more than photorealism or stylized CG.

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Maxer

Absolutely not, I wasn't commenting on the art it's self only that the ASAI seems to favor it when choosing winning art work for its competitions.

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jkletzien

Actually, ASAI has judges that come from outside the society every year, and they - not ASAI officials - judge the results. Some years it favors hand drawn pieces, and some years it does not - depends on the judges.

"Unless you win every time you enter I don't see how you get your money's worth."

That's one way of looking at it. Another way is that your fees support the only organization that consistently pushes our craft in front of architects as an art form unto itself, and worthy of consideration as such. Not just a bunch of button/pencil pushers who wouldn't know how to do a decent image without the computer or architect's wisdom guiding their every move - which is how many architects I fear see us.

For me I treat it as a donation every year to an organization that sees my profession in the light that I want to see it, and the way I want my clients to see it. It really doesn't matter whether I get in or get exposure - what matters is that the organization exists, and that it speaks the message I am unable to because I'm too busy working.

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Maxer

That is definitely a good thing and I wasn't trying to debate whether or not the ASAI is good or bad as an organization, in fact that is one of the reasons I joined it. My point is that from my experience they tend to favor traditional architectural illustration as is evident from their last competition.

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jkletzien

All due respect devin...you told scott it wasn't worth it and I can totally understand that if the agenda is your own marketing. But I wanted to make the point that the status of the profession helps all of us a lot, probably as much as individual accolades. ASAI provides both - but I enter every year because of the former.

As far as traditional media being favored...the preponderance of people who enter are traditional artists, so it doesn't surprise me that they get the majority of slots. Moreover it should be pointed out that most artists who practice traditional media have been at it a lot longer than most digital artists and have had more time to refine their eye - I do earnestly believe most visual artists get better with age. It should also be noted that the juries that typically pick the show (they vary year to year honest - it isn't ASAI that picks the images) are accomplished artists/architects (aka they are in their 50's and 60's) and are in a demographic that probably looks at images differently than the people on this forum.

Plus, if a digital artist gets in against all these odds - don't you feel even better about your own work?

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