Razorback

I just would like to get some information regarding modelling architectural freeform design in both softwares. I have been using max for quite sometime now but not to the extent of using it to its full potential i.e. advance modelling using nurbs. We mainly use max for rendering and Revit for modelling but unfortunately revit has some limitations when it comes to free form design. That's why we are starting to look into Rhino and have heard that it is pretty good in modelling free form architecture is it easy to use? Is it geared toward architecture?

Please refrain from replying that my software is better than yours I am just asking an informative insights on both when it comes to free form modelling.


TIA

Antisthenes

VERY EASY

I will recommend you to look at this page: http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.as...hitecture.html

but I can say from experience I feel there is nothing better

I have used max I have used rhinoceros I would always choose rhinoceros to model anything. Now that Vray, Maxwell, Brazil and all the render up and coming engines are hooking in and v4 with so many can't live with out features now, especially for organic architecture (history on networksurface and so on)

basically I think I have said it before but I see no reason to use autocad max illustrator or indesign any more because of 4 being part of my work flow now at one of the top Architecture firms in the US nation(I know its backwards but i am trying to turn it around, with your help)

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FOG Lite

Rhino isn't really geared toward architecture per se. Kind of the way Autocad isn't necessarily geared toward architecture. You can make any surface you could dream up but how that translates into a building is still dependent on the smarts of the end user.

There are plenty of architects out there using Rhino however and increasingly there are plug-ins and scripts being made to help meet the demands of architecture.

Rhino is exceptionally easy to use, if you are adept at Revit and Max you will have no trouble at all. In fact you will wonder why they made those programs so damn complex.

Antisthenes

check out this post i just saw this morning

http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11552

organics

ya nothing is specifically made for architecture that isn't and the stuff that is i find as FOG Lite a bit complex and somewhat limiting for the trade off with ease.

like I've said BYOI bring your own intelligence is what i choose over BIM

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Razorback

Thanks Nelson for your reply we are going to try out Rhino for sure.

jamesB

The best thing about Rhino is that it can export .SAT files and these can be imported seamlessly into Revit.

Razorback

I'm quite interested about your comment James as I would pressumed that you have experienced that workflow how is that .sat file converted into revit object? Is it imported into as massing object which you can turn into a revit parametric object?

Seems very promising the interoperability of this two programs. I would appreciate if you can give more insights.

TIA

AJLynn

What is this .SAT of which you speak? Is it more useful than the Sketchup file link?

Antisthenes

sat is ACIS autocads geometry solids language (a good and only way to move NURBS solids data out and in acad) witch they are dumping i read in the news because they want to make a new one and they don't own it i think solidworks does??

yes and it does import really well to Revit that i know

also while on the rhinoceros thread since you brought up sketchup rhinoceros can export and import skp files

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jamesB

Here is a very basic tutorial on making geometry in Rhino and importing it into Revit.

http://www.wikihow.com/Create-a-Freeform-Roof-in-Revit

I'll see if I can get some more samples of Rhino/Revit combo.