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Old October 29th, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Last couple of jobs i've worked on now have had files that just grow and grow even though i'm not adding to the model. I've tried merging all into a clean file and it drops from 110 meg to 70 meg but it instantly starts to creep back up with every autobak save or file save.
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Default Re: anyone ever get endlessly expanding files?

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Last couple of jobs i've worked on now have had files that just grow and grow even though i'm not adding to the model. I've tried merging all into a clean file and it drops from 110 meg to 70 meg but it instantly starts to creep back up with every autobak save or file save.


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sorry, Max 9 sp2 with vray.
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Default Re: anyone ever get endlessly expanding files?

It could be the old file bloat bug. Try this:
1. File>Xref Objects (open and close the dialog)
2. File>Xref Scene (open and close the dialog)
3. Type gc() in the pink edit box in the lower left corner of the workspace, then hit enter. In the white feedback edit box, you'll see a number.
4. Save the file and see if the size changed.

I have had this issue in the past (going all the way back to Max 6) and had noticed that it occurred fairly regularly with instanced lights. I have not had the problem since using fryrender, which requires that you apply an emitter material to an object rather than using actual light objects.
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Last couple of jobs i've worked on now have had files that just grow and grow even though i'm not adding to the model. I've tried merging all into a clean file and it drops from 110 meg to 70 meg but it instantly starts to creep back up with every autobak save or file save.
I have 500mb max 9+Vray file and when I ease all object and save it still 500mb . To clean that file I have to switch renderer back to scanline - hide all object(scanline can not render Vray material) and hit render - Save and the size drop to 80mb . Have no idea for this because this issue was in max6 and fixed in max 7 like Fran said .
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Default Re: anyone ever get endlessly expanding files?

Thanks for the replies.

i tried both of those but niether worked, the gc number didn't increase and after scanline the file came down from 107 024kb to 106 998kb.....


Fran did you find that breaking an instanced light (making them all unique) fixed it or was it a "once done stuffed forever" problem?
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Default Re: anyone ever get endlessly expanding files?

Nigel, the light instancing was the suspect in the bloating issue. If the method I described didn't reset your file to the correct size, then it is a different issue entirely and likely has nothing to do with instanced lights.

I will mention that the size of the number in the feedback box - gc() forces Max to do a "garbage collection" - doesn't matter. If you saved the file and it was not restored to the size it is supposed to be, then this is not your issue.
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Have you tried compress on save in File preferences
Worked for me before
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I may just end up doing a reinstall and seeing if that cures it, thanks anyway fran.

Tommy, i've never tried that but it surely wouldn't stop whatever is expanding the file it would just compress it to a smaller size?
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It brought a 20mb file down to 1.2 for me before I'd give it a go, let me know how you get on
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