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Old December 6th, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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Hey all,

My client wants me to give them the model and all the furniture, jpegs etc. so they can make changes at a future date. First I normally would not do this because the amount of labor to produce it wasn't covered by the render fees. But...they are such a pain in the ass i just want them gone for good.

My question is, I have bought furniture from online shops do I have the right to now give that to a thrid party?
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Hey all,

My client wants me to give them the model and all the furniture, jpegs etc. so they can make changes at a future date. First I normally would not do this because the amount of labor to produce it wasn't covered by the render fees. But...they are such a pain in the ass i just want them gone for good.
Charge them for the models. If you charge enough, he will surely go away and never come back.

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My question is, I have bought furniture from online shops do I have the right to now give that to a thrid party?
Probably not but you could tell your client where he can buys these models.

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Default Re: Legal question? My client wants the model and files.

could there be issues with selling your model, and bought models? many 3d models and textures will have restrictions on them, and so if you sell them, you could be breaking the law.

but as said above, charge loads, you cant lose haha!
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Default Re: Legal question? My client wants the model and files.

There is no way that whoever you bought the furniture from would be OK with you sharing that with others. So even if you charged them for your model (which is a very good idea, and I wouldn't charge any small amount either) you couldn't give them the models that you bought.
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Default Re: Legal question? My client wants the model and files.

My guess is you will have to remove all of the objects and bitmaps that you have purchased as you will not be able to pass these on. Much the same as you can't copy a music CD and give it to a friend.

Personally I would offer him a scene with no materials, no third party models, treble the price of the renders and see what he says.

However, if you want repeat work you may wanna negotiate the price, but you still can't give him the models and textures.

Edit: in the time it took for me to type this, two more replies!
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talk to your client. explain things to him. communication. thats the key. if you have good communication you'll have no problems.
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And keep in mind this would not be like making a copy of a CD for a friend it would be making a copy and selling it to a client. Very different.
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Hi and thanks.

I'd say I have about a hundred hours in the modeling, I have no idea what to ask for? Should I just multiply my hourly x 100?
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And keep in mind this would not be like making a copy of a CD for a friend it would be making a copy and selling it to a client. Very different.
This is true. You are allowed to make a "reasonable" amount of copies of a CD for friends and family under fair use laws in the US. I doubt the same applies for this case.
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This is true. You are allowed to make a "reasonable" amount of copies of a CD for friends and family under fair use laws in the US. I doubt the same applies for this case.

Really................I'm suprised at this. Pretty sure you can't in the UK.
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