Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings

3dmillermeter · February 12th, 2008

looks like Autodesk will be splitting Max 2009 into two flavors, one for design/architecture and one for Entertainment.

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=17355

WHY?

more info:

http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/in...#37;3C%2Ftd%3E

Autodesk Launches 3ds Max 2009 Entertainment Software and Introduces 3ds Max Design 2009 for Design Professionals

New Feature Highlights

Key features in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009 include the new Reveal rendering toolset, which streamlines iterative workflows; and the ProMaterials material library for simulating real-world surfaces. The release also delivers numerous biped enhancements and new UV editing tools. Improved OBJ and Autodesk FBX file formats import and export vastly enhance interoperability with Autodesk Mudbox, Autodesk Maya, Autodesk MotionBuilder software programs and other third-party applications. In addition, Recognize, a new scene-loading technology, significantly improves the inter-application workflow with Revit Architecture 2009.

"Autodesk 3ds Max has never failed to deliver; now it's even stronger with specialized versions," said Technical Director Yunus "Light" Balcioglu. "3ds Max 2009 offers great new features that allow me to be more productive and creative. The new biped improvements make it easy to build quadrupeds, Reveal rendering lets me iterate faster, and reworked OBJ import makes it easier than ever to jump between 3ds Max and Mudbox".

3ds Max Design 2009 includes all features offered in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009, with the exception of the software development toolkit (SDK). The SDK is a set of development tools used in the entertainment markets to integrate software into a production pipeline and develop in-house tools to be used in conjunction with the application. 3ds Max Design also includes Exposure technology for simulating and analyzing sun, sky, and artificial lighting to assist with LEED 8.1 certification.

"At SHoP Architects we rely on computer-aided design technology not only to produce innovative architectural forms, but also to create new efficiencies and cost-savings in the design and construction process," said David Fano, designer at SHoP Architects. "Autodesk 3ds Max Design will help us further this pursuit. The newly enhanced daylight simulation tools and improvements to the rendering workflow will allow us to iterate more freely and create better quality work faster. Also, the FBX-based interoperability with Revit will give us a continuous digital workflow by leveraging our Building Information Model for advanced visualization in 3ds Max during all stages of design."

For more information about 3ds Max 2009 and 3ds Max Design 2009, visit: http://www.worldpressdays08.com/.

Horhe · February 12th, 2008

To make more money I suppose.

Aaron2004 · February 12th, 2008

So, is VIZ still going to be offered as well?

Horhe · February 12th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Aaron2004

So, is VIZ still going to be offered as well?

Viz is going to be split up into 12 different versions... not

3dmillermeter · February 12th, 2008

More info on max 2009:

http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/in...383%3C%2Ftd%3E

New Feature Highlights

Key features in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009 include the new Reveal rendering toolset, which streamlines iterative workflows; and the ProMaterials material library for simulating real-world surfaces. The release also delivers numerous biped enhancements and new UV editing tools. Improved OBJ and Autodesk FBX file formats import and export vastly enhance interoperability with Autodesk Mudbox, Autodesk Maya, Autodesk MotionBuilder software programs and other third-party applications. In addition, Recognize, a new scene-loading technology, significantly improves the inter-application workflow with Revit Architecture 2009.

"Autodesk 3ds Max has never failed to deliver; now it's even stronger with specialized versions," said Technical Director Yunus "Light" Balcioglu. "3ds Max 2009 offers great new features that allow me to be more productive and creative. The new biped improvements make it easy to build quadrupeds, Reveal rendering lets me iterate faster, and reworked OBJ import makes it easier than ever to jump between 3ds Max and Mudbox".

3ds Max Design 2009 includes all features offered in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009, with the exception of the software development toolkit (SDK). The SDK is a set of development tools used in the entertainment markets to integrate software into a production pipeline and develop in-house tools to be used in conjunction with the application. 3ds Max Design also includes Exposure technology for simulating and analyzing sun, sky, and artificial lighting to assist with LEED 8.1 certification.

Billabong · February 12th, 2008

from what I read, they are going to slowly try to gear all of thier viz users over to max 2009 design,

alfienoakes · February 13th, 2008

Ken Pimentel, 3ds Max Product Manager;

"This is one of the reasons we created 3ds Max Design - to give VIZ users a clear path to 3ds Max and something they can fully leverage."

Translation; We dont like VIZ users paying less for a package that does what they want it too.. so we are gonna make up a new one and charge more for it.. thus restoring parity... even though they probably find VIZ just right for their needs................

Brian Smith · February 13th, 2008

It's a bit unfair to imply that Autodesk is doing it to extort more money. Obviously it's a business that should try to make the best profit it can while providing a great product. And it really shouldn't come as a surprise, because it's what so many of us have been asking for a long time. I never saw the sense in maintaining 2 separate programs that basically did the same thing.

EddieLeon · February 13th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Brian Smith

It's a bit unfair to imply that Autodesk is doing it to extort more money. Obviously it a business that should try to make the best profit it can while providing a great product.

I agree. We gotta pay to play. Autodesk needs to generate enough revenue to support further development of Max. I have no issue with what they are doing.

By the way, has anyone seen the new box for Max 2009? I can't find it anywhere.

Ernest Burden · February 13th, 2008

Does this mean that VIZ is to become the MaxDesign version, or do they co-exist? Also--I've been meaning to ask--does VIZ open .max files?

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3dmillermeter Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix Age: 29 Posts: 16 Name: Chester Miller	Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings looks like Autodesk will be splitting Max 2009 into two flavors, one for design/architecture and one for Entertainment. http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...hp?story=17355 WHY? more info: http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/in...#37;3C%2Ftd%3E Autodesk Launches 3ds Max 2009 Entertainment Software and Introduces 3ds Max Design 2009 for Design Professionals New Feature Highlights Key features in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009 include the new Reveal rendering toolset, which streamlines iterative workflows; and the ProMaterials material library for simulating real-world surfaces. The release also delivers numerous biped enhancements and new UV editing tools. Improved OBJ and Autodesk FBX file formats import and export vastly enhance interoperability with Autodesk Mudbox, Autodesk Maya, Autodesk MotionBuilder software programs and other third-party applications. In addition, Recognize, a new scene-loading technology, significantly improves the inter-application workflow with Revit Architecture 2009. "Autodesk 3ds Max has never failed to deliver; now it's even stronger with specialized versions," said Technical Director Yunus "Light" Balcioglu. "3ds Max 2009 offers great new features that allow me to be more productive and creative. The new biped improvements make it easy to build quadrupeds, Reveal rendering lets me iterate faster, and reworked OBJ import makes it easier than ever to jump between 3ds Max and Mudbox". 3ds Max Design 2009 includes all features offered in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009, with the exception of the software development toolkit (SDK). The SDK is a set of development tools used in the entertainment markets to integrate software into a production pipeline and develop in-house tools to be used in conjunction with the application. 3ds Max Design also includes Exposure technology for simulating and analyzing sun, sky, and artificial lighting to assist with LEED 8.1 certification. "At SHoP Architects we rely on computer-aided design technology not only to produce innovative architectural forms, but also to create new efficiencies and cost-savings in the design and construction process," said David Fano, designer at SHoP Architects. "Autodesk 3ds Max Design will help us further this pursuit. The newly enhanced daylight simulation tools and improvements to the rendering workflow will allow us to iterate more freely and create better quality work faster. Also, the FBX-based interoperability with Revit will give us a continuous digital workflow by leveraging our Building Information Model for advanced visualization in 3ds Max during all stages of design." For more information about 3ds Max 2009 and 3ds Max Design 2009, visit: http://www.worldpressdays08.com/. Last edited by 3dmillermeter; February 12th, 2008 at 01:45 PM.

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Horhe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Poland Age: 26 Posts: 1,131 Name: Jakub Gabriel	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings To make more money I suppose. __________________ Im starting to suspect that the world is a rendering...

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Aaron2004 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indiana Age: 25 Posts: 432 Name: Aaron Nordstrom	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings So, is VIZ still going to be offered as well?

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3dmillermeter Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Phoenix Age: 29 Posts: 16 Name: Chester Miller	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings More info on max 2009: http://pressreleases.autodesk.com/in...383%3C%2Ftd%3E New Feature Highlights Key features in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009 include the new Reveal rendering toolset, which streamlines iterative workflows; and the ProMaterials material library for simulating real-world surfaces. The release also delivers numerous biped enhancements and new UV editing tools. Improved OBJ and Autodesk FBX file formats import and export vastly enhance interoperability with Autodesk Mudbox, Autodesk Maya, Autodesk MotionBuilder software programs and other third-party applications. In addition, Recognize, a new scene-loading technology, significantly improves the inter-application workflow with Revit Architecture 2009. "Autodesk 3ds Max has never failed to deliver; now it's even stronger with specialized versions," said Technical Director Yunus "Light" Balcioglu. "3ds Max 2009 offers great new features that allow me to be more productive and creative. The new biped improvements make it easy to build quadrupeds, Reveal rendering lets me iterate faster, and reworked OBJ import makes it easier than ever to jump between 3ds Max and Mudbox". 3ds Max Design 2009 includes all features offered in Autodesk 3ds Max 2009, with the exception of the software development toolkit (SDK). The SDK is a set of development tools used in the entertainment markets to integrate software into a production pipeline and develop in-house tools to be used in conjunction with the application. 3ds Max Design also includes Exposure technology for simulating and analyzing sun, sky, and artificial lighting to assist with LEED 8.1 certification.

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Billabong Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Age: 38 Posts: 483 Name: Brandon Hall	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings from what I read, they are going to slowly try to gear all of thier viz users over to max 2009 design, __________________ www.billa1.com

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alfienoakes Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: England, West Sussex Age: 39 Posts: 832 Name: andy wiggins	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings Ken Pimentel, 3ds Max Product Manager; "This is one of the reasons we created 3ds Max Design - to give VIZ users a clear path to 3ds Max and something they can fully leverage." Translation; We dont like VIZ users paying less for a package that does what they want it too.. so we are gonna make up a new one and charge more for it.. thus restoring parity... even though they probably find VIZ just right for their needs................ __________________ Andy Wiggins MAKING COFFEE. Making a cup of coffee is like making love to a beautiful woman. It's got to be hot. You've got to take your time. You've got to stir... gently and firmly. You've got to grind your beans until they squeak. And then you put in the milk. Swiss Tony.

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Brian Smith Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sarasota, FL Age: 36 Posts: 1,058 Name: Brian Smith	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings It's a bit unfair to imply that Autodesk is doing it to extort more money. Obviously it's a business that should try to make the best profit it can while providing a great product. And it really shouldn't come as a surprise, because it's what so many of us have been asking for a long time. I never saw the sense in maintaining 2 separate programs that basically did the same thing. __________________ Brian Smith www.3dats.com 3D Architectural Training Solutions Last edited by Brian Smith; February 13th, 2008 at 09:20 AM.

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Ernest Burden Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ossining, NY USA Posts: 4,999 Name: Ernest Burden III	Re: Autodesk to split Max 2009 into two offerings Does this mean that VIZ is to become the MaxDesign version, or do they co-exist? Also--I've been meaning to ask--does VIZ open .max files? __________________ Ernest Burden III AcmeDigital architectural rendering

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