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matt_vinoir · September 26th, 2002

Well, i don't do much modelling in viz at all really. In part cos my other packages do it more easily and in part cos i just don't do that mad architecture to warreant doing all the funny modifier things.

I also now prefer vray to do my exterior renders as it kicks viz pretty badly.

So in summing up. I don't model in viz and i don't render in Viz. Hmmmm...

So is there any way to use vray without a max product? Don't think so. Autodesk are lucky that people have had to adapt to rubbish rendering etc while having to use its rotting carcass to house the parts.

Why isn't there a pure material and rendering side to viz without the modelling.

Whenever i ask questions they don't konw or don't care!!

Grrrr i'm getting a bit fed up with them. I won't be recommending a viz purchase to my university in a week, i have decided. And they were going to buy 400 seats. Sorry autodesk!!
Revit isn't dead , it has been brought back to life to replace adt

September 26th, 2002

I disagree. Last I read, Autodesk is pushing Revit as a product to layout scaffolding and other site related construction objects. If they are planning on relegating Revit to placing contractor trailers, then I tend to assume Revit is a dead end track.

Did they buy out LS to "bring it back to life" to replace any of their other product? It's pretty obvious they were eliminating competition. They made it somewhat compatible with .dwg and shelved it. The same WILL happen to Revit.

Autodesk continues to build their products (ADT included) on a foundation based on drafting. Revit however is built on a true model based foundation in which the drafting is a byproduct. Our bread and butter is producing CD's in which the bulk of the time is doing mundane coordination work, drawing sections, interior elevations, detailing, coordinating detail callouts, scheduling, etc. ADT fails at ALL of that! Revit however focused on this "mundane" stuff, automating it as much as possible. That's what caught our eye. This alone would make us switch from acad in a heartbeat. Autodesk sensed this and it scared them.

Bottom line, rendering is fun. But it represents maybe 2% of the architect's workload. I would challenge any of the Autodesk's programmers to be forced to complete a CD set of a fairly complex building. It might finally cause a paradigm shift in their archaic way of thinking.

Spongebob · October 9th, 2002

See for yourselves.

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/item/0,...123112,00.html

Spongebob

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September 26th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
matt_vinoir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: england Posts: 316 Name: matt vinoir	Well, i don't do much modelling in viz at all really. In part cos my other packages do it more easily and in part cos i just don't do that mad architecture to warreant doing all the funny modifier things. I also now prefer vray to do my exterior renders as it kicks viz pretty badly. So in summing up. I don't model in viz and i don't render in Viz. Hmmmm... So is there any way to use vray without a max product? Don't think so. Autodesk are lucky that people have had to adapt to rubbish rendering etc while having to use its rotting carcass to house the parts. Why isn't there a pure material and rendering side to viz without the modelling. Whenever i ask questions they don't konw or don't care!! Grrrr i'm getting a bit fed up with them. I won't be recommending a viz purchase to my university in a week, i have decided. And they were going to buy 400 seats. Sorry autodesk!! Revit isn't dead , it has been brought back to life to replace adt

September 26th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
dmunch Guest Posts: n/a Name:	I disagree. Last I read, Autodesk is pushing Revit as a product to layout scaffolding and other site related construction objects. If they are planning on relegating Revit to placing contractor trailers, then I tend to assume Revit is a dead end track. Did they buy out LS to "bring it back to life" to replace any of their other product? It's pretty obvious they were eliminating competition. They made it somewhat compatible with .dwg and shelved it. The same WILL happen to Revit. Autodesk continues to build their products (ADT included) on a foundation based on drafting. Revit however is built on a true model based foundation in which the drafting is a byproduct. Our bread and butter is producing CD's in which the bulk of the time is doing mundane coordination work, drawing sections, interior elevations, detailing, coordinating detail callouts, scheduling, etc. ADT fails at ALL of that! Revit however focused on this "mundane" stuff, automating it as much as possible. That's what caught our eye. This alone would make us switch from acad in a heartbeat. Autodesk sensed this and it scared them. Bottom line, rendering is fun. But it represents maybe 2% of the architect's workload. I would challenge any of the Autodesk's programmers to be forced to complete a CD set of a fairly complex building. It might finally cause a paradigm shift in their archaic way of thinking.

October 9th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Spongebob Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit, MI - USA Posts: 43 Name: Jeff Ries	See for yourselves. http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/item/0,...123112,00.html Spongebob

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