Treestorm - Replacing sub objects

dunniz · May 13th, 2008

I just purchased Treestorm and i love it. At the moment i am opacity mapping my leaves but am trying to replace the plates with leaves i have made using the replace sub object setting.

What i am having trouble with is getting the leaves to orientate correctly, if i have the pivot orientated to the 'world' i.e z=up etc, the leaves are all over the place, any suggestions?

Thanks

WAcky · May 13th, 2008

dont use the replace function. You need to read the manual again...

I'd explain it to you but the manual will do it faster and more clearly...

manta · May 13th, 2008

Don't use the replace function...that's what the manual is going to say ??

dunniz · May 13th, 2008

Please do explain, i am away from the office for a few weeks and do not have the manual on my computer. How do i replace the plates with custom objects correctly?

WAcky · May 14th, 2008

Select your tree
Click adjust in the modify rollout
Check the UV box that correspondes with the Leaf parameters
Click Sub-Objects
Start off with 1 (drag the slider across)
Click use plates
Now setup your plates
The three will now detach from the leaves
Apply a texture to the leaves!

jkletzien · May 14th, 2008

or use replace and just align the pivot's z-axis with the leaf's length, and the x along the base of the leaf and avoid those opacity maps.

dunniz · May 15th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkletzien

or use replace and just align the pivot's z-axis with the leaf's length, and the x along the base of the leaf and avoid those opacity maps.

THANKS, that was the information i was looking for

substance_design · June 20th, 2008

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']I’m sorry but I am new to onyx tree, I tried fallowing the steps outlined in this forum as to replacing leafs with new geometry, but I can't seem to find the Sub-Objects button or tab that WAcky is talking about. [/font]

Quote:

Originally Posted by WAcky

Select your tree
Click adjust in the modify rollout
Check the UV box that correspondes with the Leaf parameters
Click Sub-Objects
Start off with 1 (drag the slider across)
Click use plates
Now setup your plates
The three will now detach from the leaves
Apply a texture to the leaves!

[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'][/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'] [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Reading through this it seems that this is all done in tree storm, yet I can’t find all of the features that people are talking about. I have also check the manual for this feature but I can’t seem to find that section either. Is this something that is done in the modify tab or is this a feature of tree storm? I have been able to apply leafs for mapping but as I am using v-ray I want to reduce my use of opacity maps and really create some nice looking leafs for my trees. [/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Please help me! If anyone knows of a tutorial or can walk me through this I am sure it would not only help me but any one searching for this information on the web.[/font]
[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif']Thanks[/font]

substance_design · June 20th, 2008

Well i just received this email from the support staff at Onyx Tree.

"In the latest version of Tree Storm which you have, this feature does not exist any more.

Some customers had reported problems with leaf plates that were related to the intrinsic limits of Autodesk sub-object architecture. We had tried but had not been able to fix these problems. Thus, in the latest Tree Storm for Max 9/2008/2009, the leaf plates as sub-objects are replaced with leaf plates as sub-materials. These leaf plates cannot be replaced with the objects of your choice."

is there another way to replace the leaf plates with geomitry? maybe a round about way i am not thinking of?

WAcky · June 20th, 2008

interesting.

I guess you will have to collapse your tree mesh and do it all manually?

wow. Another reason not to move up to max 2009?

May 13th, 2008	#1 (permalink)
dunniz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wellington Posts: 5 Name: Dane Harvey	Treestorm - Replacing sub objects I just purchased Treestorm and i love it. At the moment i am opacity mapping my leaves but am trying to replace the plates with leaves i have made using the replace sub object setting. What i am having trouble with is getting the leaves to orientate correctly, if i have the pivot orientated to the 'world' i.e z=up etc, the leaves are all over the place, any suggestions? Thanks

May 13th, 2008	#2 (permalink)
WAcky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 375 Name: James Burrell	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects dont use the replace function. You need to read the manual again... I'd explain it to you but the manual will do it faster and more clearly...

May 13th, 2008	#3 (permalink)
manta Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,179 Name: william york	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects Don't use the replace function...that's what the manual is going to say ?? __________________ DESIGN FORWARD http://www.mantastudios.com

May 13th, 2008	#4 (permalink)
dunniz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wellington Posts: 5 Name: Dane Harvey	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects Please do explain, i am away from the office for a few weeks and do not have the manual on my computer. How do i replace the plates with custom objects correctly?

May 14th, 2008	#5 (permalink)
WAcky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 375 Name: James Burrell	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects Select your tree Click adjust in the modify rollout Check the UV box that correspondes with the Leaf parameters Click Sub-Objects Start off with 1 (drag the slider across) Click use plates Now setup your plates The three will now detach from the leaves Apply a texture to the leaves!

May 14th, 2008	#6 (permalink)
jkletzien Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Providence, RI Age: 40 Posts: 167 Name: jon kletzien	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects or use replace and just align the pivot's z-axis with the leaf's length, and the x along the base of the leaf and avoid those opacity maps. __________________ Jon Kletzien StudioAMD Inc. Website

June 20th, 2008	#9 (permalink)
substance_design Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: phoenix Posts: 2 Name: terry pisel	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects Well i just received this email from the support staff at Onyx Tree. "In the latest version of Tree Storm which you have, this feature does not exist any more. Some customers had reported problems with leaf plates that were related to the intrinsic limits of Autodesk sub-object architecture. We had tried but had not been able to fix these problems. Thus, in the latest Tree Storm for Max 9/2008/2009, the leaf plates as sub-objects are replaced with leaf plates as sub-materials. These leaf plates cannot be replaced with the objects of your choice." is there another way to replace the leaf plates with geomitry? maybe a round about way i am not thinking of? Last edited by substance_design; June 20th, 2008 at 05:15 PM.

June 20th, 2008	#10 (permalink)
WAcky Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 375 Name: James Burrell	Re: Treestorm - Replacing sub objects interesting. I guess you will have to collapse your tree mesh and do it all manually? wow. Another reason not to move up to max 2009? __________________ James Burrell Pixel Constructions

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