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from previous ... most important is being able to pre-empt shifts in tech and prepare for shifts in markets. AN ArchViz Speciality with an eye toward the future other areas where ones desires and skills may grow.

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Brian Bradley

Not meaning any disrespect , but making work the sole
purpose of living seems a shallow and fairly pointless
existance (IMHO). For me, work is a means to care for
my family so I can enjoy spending time with them, making
work a 24/7 occupation is a sure way to kill that!

(Sorry for adding more off topic chatter, just feel to strongly
on this one).

Regards
Bri

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Billabong

easy to say that when your making enough money, I basically think about the future of my career all the time, because it effects my family as well, and lets face it, we all wanna make it in this business

I pretty much work 15 to 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week right now, taking any job that I know i can do

I should add that I didn't mean that to sound rude if it did, but managing your money freelancing isn't an easy thing, I would love a studio job, but to up and move my family somewhere, the money would have to be decent enough for us not to live in the slums.

Sorry for the randomness

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Brian Bradley

Hey Brandon,

Trust me, I know ALL about the difficulties of managing
money as a one man/small outfit!! Still doing it right now.
My statement should not be construed as the ramblings
of a man with no money worries. Quite the opposite
is true.

But I realised along time ago that a life spent worrying
about 'career advancement' and such was just a way of
wasting away life. Hence my statement.

Anyway, to contribute something that is 'On Topic' The
biggest drawback I see to forming a viable network of
Freelancers to 'in source' to IS the business management
of it all. Most everyone on these boards is here because
they love doing the 3D aspect of their work. But as Ernest
has already mentioned, to make it work requires business
skills, someone has to take the helm business wise!
Speaking personally I loathe having to deal with the 'business'
aspect of making a living. But if someone knows an astute
and 'Honest' person with a head for business, then this would
make a worthy challenge to throw their way. A good and
secure web set up with a well organized server set up for
dropping and retreiving files would make it pretty viable if
you ask me! (Which of course you technically haven't)

Regards
Bri

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Billabong

Fair enough Brian, Thanks for clarifying.

Yeah it would take a very trustworthy, business smart person to oversee this. Personally I know of no one that isn't already climbing the walls from being to busy. Hopefully someone will offer themselves,but still only a couple of guys really still have really said they would be into this and I think its going to take more than just handful for this to start working. Maybe we should think about posting this on other sites as well.

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TheAllusionist

I left the discussion as I said I would because I was derailing it with comments. I responded to individuals via PM. To make up for my negative impact, I would offer up to people who are REALLY interested the use of a site and domain that I had intended to use for a job board. I have the mods for classifieds and for an integrated gallery that I can install (when I had to move servers the host accidently hosed the old server and lost the set up, so I just installed the basic theme and CMS I originally had set up for the project and haven't re-installed the mods I had for it, on shared hosting) I can easily add the mods and set up admin rights for a serious and responsible person.

I will not volunteer to run the business end of it, I am just offering to provide the server space and a website and help serious indviduals as best I can and help promote it and if it doesn't work and isn't feasible on US soils then only some time and energy is wasted. I just think arguing and debating doesn't answer the question Ernest originally asked, actually experimenting with trying it out would answer the question.

So if anyone seriously wants to try and promote a loose organization of united artist, I will provide the banner to rally under and the basic infrastructure. Serious individuals can contact me and if any individuals do I wil put them in contact with one another and they can develop a game plan, I don't want to get in the middle of it, I just want to provide the opportunity for it to be tested and hopefully successful and if it proceeds in a professional perhaps our studio like Ernest's can contract out your services.

So here is a chance for us to stop talking and start walking! If you have trouble contacting me for some reason just use the contact form at 3dallusions.com or the contact at the bottom of our forums, it goes to me. Please only self motivated individuals that are interested in trying to create a syndicate of US artist for contracted in-sourcing, responsibility would be delegated out to those who seem appropriate for the task, I am not looking to run the show and take it on, just provide and infrastructure to support American artist.

Here is the site in it's RAW form, I have gallery, classifieds, and project collaboration that can be added, content would be the responsibility of responsible interested parties. Sorry if have wasted peoples time if this is not of interest to anyone, I just thought the discussion should go somewhere of end.

http://www.digitalsweatshop.net/

Best regards everyone and sorry I was in trouble making, instigative mood the other day.

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Billabong

This is fantastic, Russell, let me know if you would like some cash flow sent your way, I would happy to maybe help a little with your web costs.

Sending you a pm right now

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TheAllusionist

Brandon,
When I moved my main site to new high-end server to support another very big endeavor soon to be announced, I moved some small projects like this and my mothers blog (Ok let the ribbing begin! LOL) to a shared plan that actually has lots of resources, and because I paid for two years in advance, it was only like $5.95 a month, so there is no real financial hardship on my part, hence I can easily support this for people to try and make a go of it. Of course it is very generous of you to offer. The one thing I can't donate is a lot of time, I can set things up and let interested individuals run with it. Rent is all paid for, domain is good until 2012 sometime, basically I am providing a store front for US artist to see if they can open up shop and make a go at it.

So just think of it as a cheap way to investigate the scenario, I will help get it going, but have no interest in being the store manager! LOL

Like I told Brandon in his email after contacting me I will create a mailing list and respond to everyone that displays interest and then the group can just reply all in their discussions and work things out, think of me as a facilitator with limited time but plenty of resources.

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Sounds great, Thanks Russell,

Now all we need is a businessman/woman

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Brian Bradley

Even without a 'business person' I would take Russells (Very
generous) offer and run with it if I were a US artist/modeller.
Even a loose confederation could probably see some real benefits
by working together on projects maybe slightly larger than the
man on his own would want to tackle in terms of modelling!

A compiled list of Software skills, so you know who has the
ability to handle CAD and such, who has Hard Surface skills,
Who works well at scene Layout!! Well you get the picture.

Regards
Bri

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