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Old March 13th, 2004   #7 (permalink)
Richard McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kerry Thompson
I have not seen ADT 5 yet but I understand that some of the Revit concepts are now appearing in ADT 5. My feeling is that Revit has not sold enough over the last twelve months - First of all we had Revit as the new direction of AutoDesk Architectural apps in the new world of Building Information Modeling – (BIM) - then, later we had Revit being bundled with AutoCAD ??????! (How does this relate to the concept of BIM?) , and now we are seeing Revit concepts in ADT (especially in drawings management.) - does not bode well for the future of Revit.



Most users of ADT use it as AutoCAD and still "scratch" around drawing lines and circles - and will not commit time and effort to learning ADT let alone move from the AutoCAD platform to Revit. The AutoCAD process and concept is very entrenched in the conservative AEC industry. Comparing AutoCAD to an object based approach (ADT, ArchiCAD, Revit) is like comparing a feather quill to a word processor. Most users taught writing with a quill (AutoCAD) , would have a lot of difficulty using a word processor (ADT etc.), - the word processor being far more productive and flexible but may lack the artistic merits of the quill?


Kerry, you are scaring me with your progressive logical analysis of the downfall of Revit into oblivion like Lightscape...

I am sure Autodesk will make Revit stay, as they have publically announced over and over that ADT is going to eventually be phased out, and while Revit is going to go the Inventor to MDT way and be replacing the ADT.
The problem right now for Revit user base to grow, and the massive migration we yet to see is that, Revit is very VERY EXPENSIVE. At $8000 per seat PLUS subscription cost, it's definitely not for everyone. Only large architectural firms can afford this kind of expenditure. What I would recommend (and hope) Autodesk do is to lower the pricing of Revit to that maybe of atleast comparable of ArchiCAD, or better, half that ! to attract more new users.

Secondly, I see that learning a new tool is NOT A PROBLEM. Especially Revit, which is one of the EASIEST BIM solution out there. So switching over from another CAD program like ADT is pretty easy as long as the user discard his pre-conception of what CAD is. Our firm currently have run a in-house training program and so far, a lot of AutoCAD users seems to pick up Revit very quickly without much fuzz (within 2 days..sometimes less)

And lastly, I agree with you, that Revit is like a advanced word processor compare to ACAD which is like a quill. There is "some" constraint right now as to be able to do some very creative design out of Revit (you have to basically go around the corners to do those) but rest assured, Revit 7.0+ would included a lot of new modeling tools that enhance Revit beyond our wildest dream (yeh, now I am dreaming) that we all wanted
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