Ed Goldberg

Richard Mcarthy:

I don't know where you got the information about the demise of ADT, but your statements are totally untrue. There was never any directive within Autodesk to stop developing ADT.

As a practicing Architect of 27 years, and the Author of 5 books on ADT, I am in constant contact with the program managers for both ADT and Revit, and AutoCAD.

I run all the Autodesk programs + Graphisoft's programs + write a monthly column for several magazines + build buildings.

Be careful when you make statements by heresay, and not by knowledgeable fact.

Ed Goldberg AIA, NCARB
http://www.hegra.org

Author of the Architectural Desktop books - Prentice Hall.
Author of the CADALYST AEC column.

Sawyer

Thats interesting. I know a local reseller here has mentioned the ADT phase out rumor as well. Maybe it is just a rumor I sure have heard it alot though.

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joseph alexander

Revit:

For residential i think it's great. I know people who have a lot of success. I'd avoid using it for big projects though.

For buildings over 100,000 sf avoid it for three years. We had a very bad experience using it. It's not a point where it's developed enough. However AutoDesk is pushing it really hard. (A little bird told me that SOM is having major problems with it. Something else that annoyed me is that the support user group all have experience with small residential buildings and would constantly claim that it it should work, when they've never worked on large projects themselves)

For modeling it's really slow, particularly if everything is parametric. However, in the long run the parametric aspect saves you a lot of time. But if you just want models for images there's no reason for it. You'll spend hours making a sofas or cabinets. And there's not good import feature.

One program I've been very interested in is SolidWorks. Our curtain wall associate in Spain uses it for drawing and fabrication and they swear by it. I think one of the problems with Revit is that it tells you how an building should work, which in our case is often times a roadblock.
Anyone ever play with SolidWorks?

Craig Hunt

"Your Just Stupid" is the best quote ever.

Seriously, you could put this on T-shirts and make a lot of money, guy.

Antisthenes

From what i have observed if you want to use Revit you will NEEED to get some flavor of autocad as well to do regular/trad. things and y not make it adt ?

but i say avoid autodesk all together new alteratives are sprouting up all around. i am not advocating archicad thou.

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ChooChoo

I think I'm gonna run with that. It's hillarious.

I use Revit almost exclusively. I find it to be a great program to use. I like the parametric features and the updating of every view saves me a ton of redraw times and makes things accurate.

I have found that if you have some modeling that is rounded, it doesn't transport the greatest into Max/Viz. Unless I have missed a step somewhere, it creates flat edges on rounded surfaces a little, not a whole lot. Can't quite remember what this is called, tesselation?

And I have no problems with CD's here either and Scott Davis has been around since the dinosaur.

I think Revit is good and ADT is good too. I think both are going to stick around and I think you are going to be prying ADT from the cold, dead hands of many architects that use it. They won't phase it out.