Arch Viz Competition

Eric · February 22nd, 2005

I must say this competition has truly brought some incredible artists to this community. Unfortunately the large majority of them seem to be absolutely newbies to CGArchitect.com. Perhaps I'm wrong?

Hopefully we can find a way to foster their contributions to the forums for the betterment of all CGA members. Any suggestions on how we might encourage their participation, tips, and critiques?

It's too late to institute some sort of minimum-post amount, or "member since" requirement, but what about asking those that are selected to move forward to the next stage to submit some sort of description of their work, software, information about themselves, or something that allows communication 2-way between the forums and the challenge artists - since the image submission pages are off-limits to comments and further posts to that artist's thread.

Perhaps if the artists get involved now during the initial phase, they might stick around beyond the end of the competition.

mbr · February 22nd, 2005

The competitions here were good for that. I learned a lot by looking at the entries (they posted files, and if I recall correctly, had to post a few times before the final). They were great.

A large competition like this will attract anyone with the attitude 'it can't hurt'. One deterent is to charge people, that keeps out some of the less-than-perfect entries and also pays for admin, juries, etc.

I've entered a few architecture competitions (with some success I might add ;-) and this is how it's done. Different, of course, but applicable to any compeition. But you can't keep people out and it's not good to discourage people from entering, as you may be keeping some of the b est from entering the community.

But you are correct, most are mediocre, but this is just a representatino of the field in general. There are also some superb entries, from people I've never heard of. You just have to assume that the jury will quickly and efficiently sort through the piles of entries.

I'd welcome more compeitions like the CGArch ones, and would pay a fee (if I had time) to ensure that the managerment/admin/jury were compensated accordingly, especially to learn from other entries files.

Jeff Mottle · February 22nd, 2005

Once the competition is up and running, one of the criteria is that competitors must critique each other's work within the competition. Hopefully this will get them to join our community in other areas as well. I will also be doing interviews with many of the competitors thouughout the competition so I'm sure you will be hearing and seeing much more of these people. I was hoping for many more entries, but given the quality of many of them submitted so far and the fact we are only looking for 30. I expect we should have enough to have one of the best competitions out there. It is refreshing to see some great new talent though. Hopefully we are able to launch some new careers.

Tim Nelson · February 22nd, 2005

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Originally Posted by Jeff Mottle

I was hoping for many more entries....

Don't worry Jeff, there's plenty of time between now and the 28th. I'm sure the majority is still watching to see what other people are submitting.....who me? No of course not! I would never do that! I'm just...umm....busy!

Eric · February 22nd, 2005

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Originally Posted by mbr

But you are correct, most are mediocre, but this is just a representatino of the field in general. There are also some superb entries, from people I've never heard of. You just have to assume that the jury will quickly and efficiently sort through the piles of entries.

Just to clarify, I was simply referring to the amount of applicants that have never posted to the forums before - I was not inferring anything about the quality of work.

It is great to see so many new people visiting the site, and I do sincerly hope they will stick around long enough to become active members in the community, rather than just dropping by to simply be competition applicants.

I have learned so much from this community. This is the first site I visit in the morning, and the last before I go to bed. I don't even know how many times I visit the rest of the day. I keep the "Today's Posts" open on my laptop next to me, and refresh it every few minutes to see if anything interesting has been posted. It's only been just recently that I've started posting my work to the forums for review, mostly because I'm not sure my clients would appreciate their projects being out here. However, I'm currently updating my contract templates to include promotional usage rights so I'll be a bit more protected.

Anyway, bring on the newbie CGA members, and let's do what we can to keep them around!!

Maxer · February 22nd, 2005

I have the same feeling that Eric does, I've seen all these new people entering the competition that have never been to this forum before and I wonder if they have any intention on staying. What I'm also wondering is if this competition isn't for members of the CGarchitect forum and it's for everyone and their dog, then what's the point of hosting it on this site? Obviously this site has lots of people on it who invest a good portion of their time answering questions and asking questions of their own. Shouldn’t a competition hosted by this site at least have some minimum entry rules like you have to have been a member for a month, or you need a minimum 100 posts before you can enter. I think some level of activity would guarantee that people don't just drop buy to take the gold without contributing something to the race!

Maybe I'm wrong.

Tim Nelson · February 22nd, 2005

I don't see anything wrong with not being an active member of CGA.com and entering the competition. It's supposed to be a competition for the best architectural imagery, and not who visit's, posts, or helps here the most. I see this as being the best site to host the challenge, since all others are involved in other forms of CG besides architectural.

Just by watching the contestants will be contribution enough, regardless of whether or not they stick around after it's all over. It's always good to have a larger architectural cg community though, so I hope we do get a lot of valuable members from this.

Bradley Stone · February 28th, 2005

I have to admit I've only posted on the forums a few times but I am a daily member of the live chat and if you haven't stopped by you've missed quite a bit of posting of images and very helpfull and friendly group critique going on in real time almost daily.. I hope during the competition people will decide to drop by and 'chat'. And I'll try to make it more of a point to post on the forums

Brian Cassil · February 28th, 2005

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I hope during the competition people will decide to drop by and 'chat'.

I would love to join the chatting but unfortunately our firewall here doesn't allow it. I can get on from home or in the evening during my class while the students are working on projects maybe.

Bradley Stone · February 28th, 2005

Cool! I hope to see you there. Don't get in trouble though hehe.

February 22nd, 2005	#1 (permalink)
Eric Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Denton, TX Age: 32 Posts: 385 Name: Eric Adams	Arch Viz Competition I must say this competition has truly brought some incredible artists to this community. Unfortunately the large majority of them seem to be absolutely newbies to CGArchitect.com. Perhaps I'm wrong? Hopefully we can find a way to foster their contributions to the forums for the betterment of all CGA members. Any suggestions on how we might encourage their participation, tips, and critiques? It's too late to institute some sort of minimum-post amount, or "member since" requirement, but what about asking those that are selected to move forward to the next stage to submit some sort of description of their work, software, information about themselves, or something that allows communication 2-way between the forums and the challenge artists - since the image submission pages are off-limits to comments and further posts to that artist's thread. Perhaps if the artists get involved now during the initial phase, they might stick around beyond the end of the competition. __________________ Eric Adams http://particlerealities.blogspot.com/

February 22nd, 2005	#2 (permalink)
mbr Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles and Connecticut....and Denver Posts: 1,266 Name: Markus Byron	Re: Arch Viz Competition The competitions here were good for that. I learned a lot by looking at the entries (they posted files, and if I recall correctly, had to post a few times before the final). They were great. A large competition like this will attract anyone with the attitude 'it can't hurt'. One deterent is to charge people, that keeps out some of the less-than-perfect entries and also pays for admin, juries, etc. I've entered a few architecture competitions (with some success I might add ;-) and this is how it's done. Different, of course, but applicable to any compeition. But you can't keep people out and it's not good to discourage people from entering, as you may be keeping some of the b est from entering the community. But you are correct, most are mediocre, but this is just a representatino of the field in general. There are also some superb entries, from people I've never heard of. You just have to assume that the jury will quickly and efficiently sort through the piles of entries. I'd welcome more compeitions like the CGArch ones, and would pay a fee (if I had time) to ensure that the managerment/admin/jury were compensated accordingly, especially to learn from other entries files.

February 22nd, 2005	#3 (permalink)
Jeff Mottle President/Founder Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 4,861 Name: Jeff Mottle	Re: Arch Viz Competition Once the competition is up and running, one of the criteria is that competitors must critique each other's work within the competition. Hopefully this will get them to join our community in other areas as well. I will also be doing interviews with many of the competitors thouughout the competition so I'm sure you will be hearing and seeing much more of these people. I was hoping for many more entries, but given the quality of many of them submitted so far and the fact we are only looking for 30. I expect we should have enough to have one of the best competitions out there. It is refreshing to see some great new talent though. Hopefully we are able to launch some new careers. __________________ Jeff Mottle CGarchitect.com

February 22nd, 2005	#6 (permalink)
Maxer Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 2,393 Name: Devin Johnston	Re: Arch Viz Competition I have the same feeling that Eric does, I've seen all these new people entering the competition that have never been to this forum before and I wonder if they have any intention on staying. What I'm also wondering is if this competition isn't for members of the CGarchitect forum and it's for everyone and their dog, then what's the point of hosting it on this site? Obviously this site has lots of people on it who invest a good portion of their time answering questions and asking questions of their own. Shouldn’t a competition hosted by this site at least have some minimum entry rules like you have to have been a member for a month, or you need a minimum 100 posts before you can enter. I think some level of activity would guarantee that people don't just drop buy to take the gold without contributing something to the race! Maybe I'm wrong.

February 22nd, 2005	#7 (permalink)
Tim Nelson Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Providence, RI Age: 29 Posts: 1,573 Name: Tim Nelson	Re: Arch Viz Competition I don't see anything wrong with not being an active member of CGA.com and entering the competition. It's supposed to be a competition for the best architectural imagery, and not who visit's, posts, or helps here the most. I see this as being the best site to host the challenge, since all others are involved in other forms of CG besides architectural. Just by watching the contestants will be contribution enough, regardless of whether or not they stick around after it's all over. It's always good to have a larger architectural cg community though, so I hope we do get a lot of valuable members from this. __________________ Tim Nelson timnelson3d.com

February 28th, 2005	#8 (permalink)
Bradley Stone Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: United States Posts: 19 Name: Bradley Stone	Re: Arch Viz Competition I have to admit I've only posted on the forums a few times but I am a daily member of the live chat and if you haven't stopped by you've missed quite a bit of posting of images and very helpfull and friendly group critique going on in real time almost daily.. I hope during the competition people will decide to drop by and 'chat'. And I'll try to make it more of a point to post on the forums

February 28th, 2005	#10 (permalink)
Bradley Stone Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: United States Posts: 19 Name: Bradley Stone	Re: Arch Viz Competition Cool! I hope to see you there. Don't get in trouble though hehe.

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