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Old May 13th, 2005   #1 (permalink)
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I spent about an hour at the book store today looking at books for ideas. The thing is, out of every book, there was only a couple images that I actually wanted to use ideas from and these books are $30-$50 each! The magazines are ok, but mostly full of ads.

Right now my head is just a sea of ideas without anything specific. I think I want to keep the palette pretty simple like I did in the first challenge, except with some very bold/brigth accents.

One building I really liked that I saw was the Bank of America building in Charlotte. It's got a nice art deco feel to it in the elevator lobbys. I found a couple pictures online but they really don't do it justice.
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Some others I found that I really like. Hope I don't go to jail for copyright violation.
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And one small gripe if I may...I HATE the fact that in the rules it states that "The scene must however depict a high profile lobby that is filled with activity."

I really really don't like putting a lot of people in my images. Part of it is because I don't have a lot of good people images, and the other reason is because when you look at a beautful architectural rendering or photo, you don't think to yourself "wow I really wish it had more people in it". At least I don't. To me if the architecture, composition, lighting, etc. is strong enough, you shouldn't need ANY people. Well maybe one or 2 for scale, but I just don't like it. Of course it people always have their place in renderings & sometimes it is good to have a lot of them, but not always.
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I see you've got at least Koolhaas and Gehry represented in your photos...good choices! I'd take a look at Meier's work, too, for inspiration.
http://www.richardmeier.com
Good stuff for lighting experiments.

I agree with you about the people, you won't see a largely populated lobby in architectural photos, at least not as the norm. Just takes away from the light and materials. The only reason I stick people in is because sometimes clients demand it!

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Thanks for that. Some really good ones there.
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Hello Tom,

I agree with you on plopping people into the space but if I remember correctly in one of the last final images, a judge made a comment that each and every element including people (entourage) is very just as important in the their placement, and number as the design, materials, and rendering. They should reinforce your concept/image not take away from it.

I think you have a good range of sources. Pick one that you have the strongest interest in and start with that one as a the spring board for your working WIP.
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I agree with you about the people, you won't see a largely populated lobby in architectural photos, at least not as the norm. Just takes away from the light and materials. The only reason I stick people in is because sometimes clients demand it!
This is an interesting debate. Personally I am not a fan of the way the architectural media (particularly magazines, books, TV etc.. but us lot too) banish people from their photography/renderings. What does it say about the architecture and the architect's design priorities if the space portrayed looks its best without people to 'spoil it'?

Maybe the problem lies mainly with designers rather than visualisers/photographers but I do think that, generally, good placement of people enhances rather than detracts from an image - it reinforces the design concept by showing that a space not only looks good but also functions well.

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hi tim

in my point of view, i think that our job is not to make a photograpy but to realize an expressive picture that will represent the essence of the project's concept. opposit to the photographers, we have to imagine the mood of the space before the construction and the place of peoples seems to me very important in Architecture. it give life to the image and of course to the project.

unfortunately i think that photographers often forget that architecture is made for human beeing...

in my work, i like to imagine how people will use and live the space i describe.

if you miss good peoples to insert your work ; for my part, when i go outside i try to always take my camera with me. and i like this part of our job....

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Good points from you all. I think it has its place, but I don't like feeling pressured or forced into putting people into it if I don't want to. But rules are rules, so I will do the best I can. Maybe I will use abstract forms of people instead of models or photos so I can keep it very uniform & non-distracting. I intend to put more effort into the architecture than I do the people within the architecture.

I did see one project today at the bookstore where the people were absolutely essential..I wish I could remember the name of it. It was an architect/designer who was simulating some sort of natural environment within an enclosed, old industrial building or something. The pictures were very orange, and he used a lot of fog & mirrors for effects. All you could see were silhouettes in the light and it made such a huge impact on me. I wanted to be there so bad!
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