akzit

General open question to all users of REVIT:

What is the big gain of changing from acad to revit? And what is the learning curve for cad users? And last,is revit good for any size project or only big ones?

Asking this cuz the big chief came all excited from the national AIA convetion in Vegas and asked me to get info on revit, said that revit was mentioned alot in the convention.

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ihabkal

I thought that Revit does not replace Autocad or else they will stop using Autocad or else Autodesk would have given Autocad an annhiliating blow, but it goes hand in hand with it in order to do more tasks easier than Autocad alone.


But after I read their FAQ at http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet...3112&preview=1

4. Autodesk Revit Building handles building modeling well, but what about conventional drafting and detailing? Do I still need AutoCAD to get my work done?

You can work entirely in Autodesk Revit Building to generate your construction documentation. AutoCAD software is not required.

Sawyer

I am curious as to what Revit cannot do that you need cad for.

akzit

It is not a question of what revit or acad can not do. I have read that BIM is the next great thing and all the hype but also have read that BIM has been slow to catch like they had said. So I and the office is curious to know from first hand users as to what is the big gain to switch or maybe switch is not the correct word maybe is to ADD revit to the construction document making process of the bussines.

ihabkal

I have tried it for a few minutes (demo) but I don't need it Autocad and max are my tools. but I think in 5 years any architectural firm will probalby use it. It is growing to be a standard. If you need to find a job, you need to learn Revit...or a similar product...

AndyThomas

Akzit,

Why switch to revit?

I am architectural technologist and my office is just switching to revit and I have been learning it through it's tutorials. I have also had a go at applying it to an actual job - always more troublesome. The tutorials are very simple to follow (point here, click here) but for someone with zero experience it gets you into the groove of how this program is compiled.
I am impressed with it and see that it will be able to replace ACAD completely. Saying that is a leap of faith, but whenever I think it can't do something, some exploration shows that it can, and it integrates it into the model. I see it as useful for both small and large projects.
Standard drafting can be done with it but it seems so weird and does not have the myriad of tools and features we are so used to with ACAD. It is not a 'drafting' package and a certain amount of mental shift is required to be in Revit 'mode'.
Papers have been produced on the learning curve and integratin into architectural practices and I must try and get them in a reply to you. It was someone else on this site who sent the links to them to me.
Basically it was found that Revit had the expected teethign problems being introduced as a new package to the office but was surprisingly quick at bringin back up to previous productivity and then rapidly exceeding it. A six month period may be an approximate period for the lull if I remember rightly.

All the best

Andy

cdos00

Because Revit is a BIM and not a CAD drafting software you cannot even remotely compare them. Let me offer this comparison to everyone:

How do you compare AutoCAD to Max?

Answer: you cannot. AutoCAD is a drafting software and accels in the 2D realm. It is extremely efficient at creating "stupid" geometry. The lines don't have any actions associated to them for the most part. Max, is a modeling/rendering software. Yes, you can draft in 2D in Max, yes you can creat "stupid geometry" in Max. You can render in AutoCAD, you can Model in AutoCAD, you can even creat lights and cameras. However, you don't. Because AutoCAD isn't good at it. Similarly, you don't use MAX to create construction documents with details. Because it isn't good at it. (nor was it part of why that software was developed.)

So, with this in mind, Revit has doesn't have ANYTHING in common with AutoCAD, Revit really accels at B.I.M. (Building Information Modeling) while you can technically draft in 2D in Revit, AutoCAD is the KING of drafting. Revit will be the KING of B.I.M.

If you needed an architect you wouldn't hire a concrete installer would you?

Don't buy a B.I.M. if you need a 2D drafting package.

another interesting piece of information to chew on: AutoCAD has been in existence since the early '80s, it has developed into a "do-all" software. However, it doesn't do everything well. It does one thing better than anyone else...2D Drafting. That is what they need to concentrate on. They just buy the rest of the software (Revit, Dwf, Max, Viz) and then integrate those software designers into their company.

Just food for thought.

manta

The thing I've never understood about Autocad, is that it doesn't care whether
your drawings match up, I started in 3D, and always took it for granted when I changed something in the top veiw, everything changed in every veiw, when my architect friend told me that he had to change every drawing everytime the client changed their mind, I thought to myself thats silly, I mean the software is smart enough, why can't they program it to know that moving this wall, that it needs to do so in all the drawings...

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Arnel

That is what Revit does best coordinating changes in all your views let it be 3d, elevations, sections, schedule and etc. Thus the mantra Change anywhere and revit propagate all the changes everyhere in you documents.

At its core is the very powerful and the only fully parametric engine in the market today. Change anything anywhere it will be coordinated live in all your documents no need for any updating.

It can do all sorts of projects from small to huge projects.

manta

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So are you saying, that if a person wanted to just do 2D drawings, that it would still be parametric, I tell ya it would sure save him alot of time and effort, enough to take on more work...

Oh one more thing, he used the command line alot, is there one in revit ?

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