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Old October 27th, 2005   #1 (permalink)
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I would like to conduct a survey where all your participation is required.

Each one you shall specify how much time we allocate to various aspect of a 3d viz,on an average, per view !!!!

Obviously because the scale, extent and detail levels are so very different in each case !! still, we could have some generalised idea about the same. a range of time value is also accepted.

pls follow this format

3d Modelling Time : 2 days @ 15 Hrs a day
Material & Lighting Setup ( incl of Test renders ) : 1 - 1.5 days
Final Render Time : 1 day including Pshop processing of Render passes
Final Render resolutions : 4500 x 3000 pixels
How many client revisions : 1 to 2 times max

Total Turn around Time : 4 - 5 working Days

Now the ball is your court !!!!
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i think what you are talking about is luxury.. I would say 50% of our work involves a day turn around time, whereus we pick up a project at 8 o'clock in the morning and give a client finished product the same time the very next day. I am not even talking about small project.. We've done hotels, corporate offices and shopping centres.. Granted we have a server farm in house that can wip out 4000px x 2900px image in about an hour with global illumination and all the other stuff that goes with it. In saying that burning of the midnight oil is of common occurance. Financially speaking those are the best jobs as the clients pay top dollar(or in our case rand) for quick turn around time and there is no changes. Rather a pleasure as otherwise making changes seems to be rather in this season and probably the next...
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... I would say 50% of our work involves a day turn around time, whereus we pick up a project at 8 o'clock in the morning and give a client finished product the same time the very next day. I am not even talking about small project.. We've done hotels, corporate offices and shopping centres.. Granted we have a server farm in house that can wip out 4000px x 2900px image in about an hour with global illumination and all the other stuff that goes with it.....
I am impressed !!! Ths is what I intend to find.. thanks for the feedback
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Can ask what is your work flow.
I get drawings from guys in the office i work in microstation , and have to spend a few ours stripping them out of all the unwanted info.
Then start modeling.
I have gotten one finished set of drawings in 5 years, so Changes are a given.
What software do you use, ie to model, and render , and how do you get the turn around so fast.

Thanks for the info , makes interestsing yet frightening reading.

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Can you please tell us what the initial reason is for your survey?

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Can you please tell us what the initial reason is for your survey?

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sure dennis !! As is evident from the 1st response that there is a variation in turn around time by professionals across the world.There are many reasons for the same like :-1) scale & detailing level undertaken2) technical expertise & experience3) workflow differences4) hardware resource availabilty5) any other factor I might not be aware of By getting an idea of these time variations we can assess where we lack in certain aspects of viz and where we can improve on. Like for example, 4 days turn around time was luxury for somebody.. somebody else thought that 1 day turn around time was frightening..Indeed,there is so much we can learn here. So that we know what the best in the industry do & achieve. Be inspired and strive to reach those targets.
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I get drawings from guys in the office i work in microstation , and have to spend a few ours stripping them out of all the unwanted info.Then start modeling.
I very much agree with kelly on this. cleaning a dwg file so that only the relevant info is imported into max from the mess the clients send us is a part of the time consuming schedule.I wonder how arnold@asylumstudio.co.za handles this aspect of Viz ?Its a learning proces , Dennis !!!!
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This seems almost impossible to do. I am working on a project that I have been working on part time for months because the archi was taking his time getting to me. A more accurate way to look at this may be if you posted a file and asked everyone how long we thought it would take us to do it. And then an open blanket question says nothing of quality. I can model and render out of autocad but it might not be too good.
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I agree. Sometimes I do urgent one or two days turnaround jobs, but other may take 1 or two months, because the cad files may not be final, or the client will request 4 or 5 revisions, or the client will not even be in a hurry and schedule bi-weekly meetings. In general, I could say that most of our projects are 7-10 days long, and require 3-5 render views at print resolution (2-4K)
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the quality for 1 day work is 1 day work...nothing else!!!
it doesn't matter how fast I am...I alwalys finish at the last minute...because if I have 2 hours I'll use theses minutes to improve my job!...at least my clients know that I'm doing it my best and they pay for that!

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i think what you are talking about is luxury.. I would say 50% of our work involves a day turn around time, whereus we pick up a project at 8 o'clock in the morning and give a client finished product the same time the very next day. I am not even talking about small project.. We've done hotels, corporate offices and shopping centres.. Granted we have a server farm in house that can wip out 4000px x 2900px image in about an hour with global illumination and all the other stuff that goes with it. In saying that burning of the midnight oil is of common occurance. Financially speaking those are the best jobs as the clients pay top dollar(or in our case rand) for quick turn around time and there is no changes. Rather a pleasure as otherwise making changes seems to be rather in this season and probably the next...
Not that I see this changing anytime soon, but I hate when I read stuff like this. Clients need to to figure out how to plan their projects to allow more than 24 hours to complete a project. The problem is that it seems to be engrained into generation after generation that it's ok to leave everything to the last minute and expect everyone to jump becuase they wasted the time on themselves and did not think about the others down the line (ie the people who create their imagery). It's entrenched in every part of the industry at every stage of the process from early design to final marketing imagery. There is really no need for it, but yet it continues. That part of doing production CG work I will never miss. I think the worst was 36 hours straight to meet a deadline, but I have a feeling that there are many who have done much more than that.
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