Windows Vista benefits?

RyanSpaulding · January 30th, 2007

Hey guys,

I'm running my main workstation on a laptop right now, and it's maxed at 2GB RAM

but I made sure to get a 64-bit chip....though it is the Turion64.

Will getting Vista benefit me much do you think? I do run into some issues with Vue's RAM management and eventually (ha) want to move to VRay so I'll have the proxy vs geometry issue then.

Also, can Vista and XP SP2 be BOTH run on a system? I'm sure we'll run into programs that wont work on Vista that do now on XP.

Matt Clementson · January 30th, 2007

Well you could get the 64-bit version of XP then to ensure compatibility. The main issue at the moment is drivers - not all of the manufacturers have 64-bit ones available, printer ones especially it seems.

A 64-bit OS will allow you to address more RAM though - so its worth doing if you're hitting RAM issues (of course your apps need to be 64-bit as well to be able to do so).

Antisthenes · January 30th, 2007

also 2003 64 bit

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/29/xp-vs-vista/

XP vs Vista Benchmarks and keep in mind 2003 ...

Quote:

Server 2003 outperforms XP, it installs
faster, it boots faster, it runs applications faster,
it manages programs better, it never slows down (even
after days of being left on) and it even gives better
frame rates in games over XP.

Almost every single program (bar none) that
I run on XP... I can run on Server 2003 and not only that,
but they run much faster on Server 2003. Some people say
"Server is not suited for use" but this is just not true.

Cesar R · January 30th, 2007

Matt,

did Finalrender get updated to work with max9 64bit yet?

Matt Clementson · January 31st, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cesar R

Matt,

did Finalrender get updated to work with max9 64bit yet?

Its still in beta - should be out very soon.

Maxer · January 31st, 2007

Matt, how is it that Cebas can release all kinds of updates and service packs for Maya & C4D but nothing for 3D Studio? I mean we've been waiting since last year for a version of fR that will work with Max 9, but instead of that we get a new version of fR for Maya. I have a hard time believing that Maya is a bigger platform for Cebas than 3D Studio.

wilky9 · January 31st, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanSpaulding

Also, can Vista and XP SP2 be BOTH run on a system? I'm sure we'll run into programs that wont work on Vista that do now on XP.

Rumor has it that Vista will in-validate your XP registration number if you upgrade your license. No information on what happens if you have a full (not upgrade from XP) version of Vista.

Antisthenes · January 31st, 2007

with just one look at the benchmarks on tomshardware who would ever use vista unless they were forced to?

if you want the new vista look on XP that is available with out the HUGE hit in performance.

Quote:

the professional graphics benchmarking suite SPECviewperf 9.03 suffered heavily from the lack of support for the OpenGL graphics library under Windows Vista. This is something we expected, and we clearly advise against replacing Windows XP with Windows Vista if you need to run professional graphics applications. We are disappointed that CPU-intensive applications such as video transcoding with XviD (DVD to XviD MPEG4) or the MainConcept H.264 Encoder performed 18% to nearly 24% slower in our standard benchmark scenarios. Both benchmarks finished much quicker under Windows XP.

Vista vs. XP applications: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/...sta/page6.html

this and noting that 2003 is faster than XP what would you choose?

Cesar R · January 31st, 2007

When will Vista 64bit be available, someone at compusa told me that only 32bit version was released the other night

Antisthenes · January 31st, 2007

also we wonder when VISTA light the version that complies with the EU lawsuits will come out too (not to bundle software with OS that has competition & and to release code so others can better make there stuff work w/o advantage to only MS wares).
but I am almost positive that will be just as not fast as XP or 2k3

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RyanSpaulding Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madison, WI Age: 27 Posts: 950 Name: Ryan Spaulding	Windows Vista benefits? Hey guys, I'm running my main workstation on a laptop right now, and it's maxed at 2GB RAM but I made sure to get a 64-bit chip....though it is the Turion64. Will getting Vista benefit me much do you think? I do run into some issues with Vue's RAM management and eventually (ha) want to move to VRay so I'll have the proxy vs geometry issue then. Also, can Vista and XP SP2 be BOTH run on a system? I'm sure we'll run into programs that wont work on Vista that do now on XP.

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Matt Clementson Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 37 Posts: 218 Name: Matt Clementson	Re: Windows Vista benefits? Well you could get the 64-bit version of XP then to ensure compatibility. The main issue at the moment is drivers - not all of the manufacturers have 64-bit ones available, printer ones especially it seems. A 64-bit OS will allow you to address more RAM though - so its worth doing if you're hitting RAM issues (of course your apps need to be 64-bit as well to be able to do so).

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Cesar R Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 876 Name: Cesar Rullier	Re: Windows Vista benefits? Matt, did Finalrender get updated to work with max9 64bit yet? __________________ Xeon 5130 : Revit + 3DSMax Architecture Student / Autodesk BSD AE ------------------------------------------ Fa5 - Honda Civic Si

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Maxer Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Age: 34 Posts: 2,507 Name: Devin Johnston	Re: Windows Vista benefits? Matt, how is it that Cebas can release all kinds of updates and service packs for Maya & C4D but nothing for 3D Studio? I mean we've been waiting since last year for a version of fR that will work with Max 9, but instead of that we get a new version of fR for Maya. I have a hard time believing that Maya is a bigger platform for Cebas than 3D Studio. __________________ “There is no spoon” http://devinjohnston.cgsociety.org/gallery/

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Cesar R Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 876 Name: Cesar Rullier	Re: Windows Vista benefits? When will Vista 64bit be available, someone at compusa told me that only 32bit version was released the other night __________________ Xeon 5130 : Revit + 3DSMax Architecture Student / Autodesk BSD AE ------------------------------------------ Fa5 - Honda Civic Si

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Antisthenes Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Phx Age: 31 Posts: 585 Name: Jonas Callewaert	Re: Windows Vista benefits? also we wonder when VISTA light the version that complies with the EU lawsuits will come out too (not to bundle software with OS that has competition & and to release code so others can better make there stuff work w/o advantage to only MS wares). but I am almost positive that will be just as not fast as XP or 2k3 __________________ The most necessary/useful piece of learning is that which unlearns what is untrue: 'evil' may be acquiring Happiness through virtue which is based on knowledge!/?

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