archkre

Take a look at this,please:
http://www.designcommunity.com/discussion/29056.html
What can we do about this "cheap people?

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xgarcia

hmm....it says "from $150" on their website. They surely must charged more than that. How can they stay in business?

archkre

Elemental Watson:
They can stay in bussiness because they live and
work in countries where u$s150 is a fortune!
For instance in New Delhi, India you can live 1 month or more with 150 bucks!
this is called "Unloyal competence"

[ September 04, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: archkre ]

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jucaro

Thats the advantage of outsourcing abroad.
If the quality of workmanship is just almost the same as the ones you have localy, and still able to meet deadlines, then why not outsource?

My off-shore clients even prefer outsourcing here just because of the cost alone. The $100 per view we charge here can beat anytime the $100 per hour which our foreign counterparts charge there.

And yes, local cost-of-living play a big part of it.

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archkre

Jucaro: What you and others do is "unethical practice" and it is despicable and in some countries is punished by the law!
So everything goes!
Ok, I'll start charging 20 Euros/23 dolars per image with the best possible quality, including a surprise bonus with the purchase!

[ September 04, 2003, 09:50 AM: Message edited by: archkre ]

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psyanide

It's not "unethical" it's capitalism. While it could potentially cost me/the company I work for money, most folks still prefer to shop at home. By the time everyone is comfortable enough with buying and selling accross the net (and globe), the companies/individuals in countries where this work can be done cheaper won't be the problem, the problem will be that *everyone* will be able to do it while drawing their plans and elevations in their native CAD software.

jucaro

Why would that be unethical? We buy software at the same cost as our US/Euro or wherever counterparts. At the rate we charge our clients, the Return-of-Investment takes too long to even reclaim cost of software alone. Add that to our operating cost and other over-head expenses.

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archkre

Even Capitalism has its rules: there are things or illegal practices you can't do like: Selling products at loss to try to eliminate a competitor/Dumping/and many others.
Under the name of the Capitalism you can not do anything!

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David Knourek

I normally try to stay out of these threads but you are saying its illegal to sell products at a loss like these people in India are selling there renders for $150usd and up and yet you say that they can live on the $150usd for a month. So if they are turining out renders every 2 to 4 days making any where from $1125usd to $2250usd from 1 work station in their economy as you describe it, how are they loosing money? Im not trying to start anything or be some kind of smart a$$ but looks like if they get enough work in they can make good money in their country.

I agree though that companys like this can hurt others in other countries offering services for much less than you or I can afford to bill.

-dave

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schmoron13

I know you're just starting s*it like usual, but in this case, I think you've gone too far. You're now not only directly insulting others on here, but you're also falsely claiming illegal practice, which by the way, can be construed as illegal in itself (note: character defamation)...

that being said...i look forward to the next "claim."...they're always hillarious

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