region net render in viz4

quizzy · August 6th, 2002

anyone know how this region net render works in viz4? in terms of calculating radiosity?

ZepSOFD · August 7th, 2002

I think the host does all the radiosity calc. and then farms out all the scanline stuff.

quizzy · August 8th, 2002

I really need to know for sure, I think that MAX 5 handles it the same as viz4... so... And since we are buying max5 and a new system (or 2 lighter ones) i really need to know if I need a heavy-duty-host, like a dual-xeon... (dont bother me with AMD i'll stick to intel) or i can use two systems. (rendering on both or rendering on one and working on the other)

plastic · August 8th, 2002

radiosity processing doesn't even support dual cpu's, so its far away from distributed calculation...

max5 doesn't have the VIZ4 region net render funcion included...
probably it was not reliable enough, since it was not more than a region-render-script-hack...

there are quite a few cool VIZ4 things max5 doesn't have, like perspective correction, create camera from view etc.

however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5...
i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though...

Jeff Mottle · August 8th, 2002

however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5...
i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though...

There was a post about this on the MAX board a while back and the official reponse was that unless you owned both you could not leaglly copy DLLs or scripts across.

HeDaCoM · August 11th, 2002

hi quizzy,
I think max 5 has net region render.
and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network if solution isn't calculated before sending to the network. if you are doing a brute force GI you can use network rendering also. you should chekc this before getting that xeons...

Tom's Hardware
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/0203131/
Athlon MP vs Xeon

Anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1606&p=2
Athlon MP vs Xeon

plastic · August 11th, 2002

>>I think max 5 has net region render.

no

>>and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network

no

also note that radiosity calculating doesn't support dual cpu's. (no advantage to a single system right now)

[ August 12, 2002, 05:32 AM: Message edited by: Marc Lorenz ]

HeDaCoM · August 12th, 2002

ok. maybe the original script for max 3 works

http://www.origamy.com.br/english/tools.html

but I get 100% both cpu usage when calculating radiosity.

quizzy · August 12th, 2002

Hey hedacom,

I'm not going to buy AMD, I want to go for working speed (ie. graphic speed) instead of rendering speed, with a good region/blowup net render function, rendering is no problem for me since I have allmost 30 computers at my disposal for rendering...

hmmm... this is maybe a question for the discreet dudes.... or i'll have to wait for our system manager to return from vacation, and buy 3ds max 5... i think i'll do the latter...

anyway, thnx for the info

quizzy

Jeff Mottle · August 12th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by quizzy:

I'm not going to buy AMD, I want to go for working speed (ie. graphic speed) instead of rendering speed...

HUH? Maybe I misunderstodd this, but how is an Intel Faster than an AMD at graphics? Isn't this a function of the video card you are using and not the CPU?

August 6th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
quizzy Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,563 Name: Michiel Quist	anyone know how this region net render works in viz4? in terms of calculating radiosity? __________________ Michiel Quist http://www.3idee.nl

August 8th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
quizzy Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,563 Name: Michiel Quist	I really need to know for sure, I think that MAX 5 handles it the same as viz4... so... And since we are buying max5 and a new system (or 2 lighter ones) i really need to know if I need a heavy-duty-host, like a dual-xeon... (dont bother me with AMD i'll stick to intel) or i can use two systems. (rendering on both or rendering on one and working on the other) __________________ Michiel Quist http://www.3idee.nl

August 8th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
plastic Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: vienna, EU Posts: 314 Name: Marc Lorenz	radiosity processing doesn't even support dual cpu's, so its far away from distributed calculation... max5 doesn't have the VIZ4 region net render funcion included... probably it was not reliable enough, since it was not more than a region-render-script-hack... there are quite a few cool VIZ4 things max5 doesn't have, like perspective correction, create camera from view etc. however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5... i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though... __________________ Marc Lorenz http://plugins.angstraum.at My 3d gallery at Flickr

August 8th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Jeff Mottle President/Founder Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 5,059 Name: Jeff Mottle	however, all thins things are maxscripts which can also be used with max 5... i don't own viz4, i'd have to copy the scripts from the other office, not sure if its legal to use them with max5 though... There was a post about this on the MAX board a while back and the official reponse was that unless you owned both you could not leaglly copy DLLs or scripts across. __________________ Jeff Mottle CGarchitect.com

August 11th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
HeDaCoM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain, Europe Posts: 181 Name: Héctor Corcín	hi quizzy, I think max 5 has net region render. and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network if solution isn't calculated before sending to the network. if you are doing a brute force GI you can use network rendering also. you should chekc this before getting that xeons... Tom's Hardware http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/0203131/ Athlon MP vs Xeon Anandtech http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.html?i=1606&p=2 Athlon MP vs Xeon __________________ Héctor D. Corcín http://www.iruditek.com/hedaweb

August 7th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
ZepSOFD Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Las Vegas NV. Posts: 60 Name: Tom Olson	I think the host does all the radiosity calc. and then farms out all the scanline stuff.

August 11th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
plastic Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: vienna, EU Posts: 314 Name: Marc Lorenz	>>I think max 5 has net region render. no >>and the radiosity is calculated by each of the computers in the network no also note that radiosity calculating doesn't support dual cpu's. (no advantage to a single system right now) [ August 12, 2002, 05:32 AM: Message edited by: Marc Lorenz ] __________________ Marc Lorenz http://plugins.angstraum.at My 3d gallery at Flickr

August 12th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
HeDaCoM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain, Europe Posts: 181 Name: Héctor Corcín	ok. maybe the original script for max 3 works http://www.origamy.com.br/english/tools.html but I get 100% both cpu usage when calculating radiosity. __________________ Héctor D. Corcín http://www.iruditek.com/hedaweb

August 12th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
quizzy Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Utrecht, The Netherlands Age: 35 Posts: 1,563 Name: Michiel Quist	Hey hedacom, I'm not going to buy AMD, I want to go for working speed (ie. graphic speed) instead of rendering speed, with a good region/blowup net render function, rendering is no problem for me since I have allmost 30 computers at my disposal for rendering... hmmm... this is maybe a question for the discreet dudes.... or i'll have to wait for our system manager to return from vacation, and buy 3ds max 5... i think i'll do the latter... anyway, thnx for the info quizzy __________________ Michiel Quist http://www.3idee.nl

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