how on earth is this possible in viz?

matt_vinoir · August 2nd, 2002

this image is a max model in final render. The archictecture is by alberto campo beaza. It is so nice. Just the sort of light quality i want.

Tell me if this is stupid but, the actual building is really simple. What do you think if i were to model it and then for guys on here to import the model into viz and try to get a similar effect. This would be a learning tool for people like me just starting. We could then look at the files or read about what material settings were used for radioity. Lighting reflects textures etc. that makes it achievable. I think if i were to understand a few simple parameters that you guys use to make it look convincing i would be able to hard a solid base to start from.

At the moment i feel like a headless chicken running around clicking buttons here and there and not getting very far.

The other purpose could be for experimentation on what different effects and scenes can be created with the same model. Ideas for individualirty in that sense.

Is that a dumb idea? i won't be too offended honest!

I have all the plans of the building an pictures so i could get it all together. I feel that with some experimentation we can get some nice exterior images.

thanks for listening anyway!

matt_vinoir · August 2nd, 2002

www.trinity3d.com/images/cebas/finalrender/Outdoor_pool_tn.jpg

heres the link sorry. and i put it as my pic if this is wrong

STRAT · August 2nd, 2002

sounds like a good idea. i dont use viz4 but i wouldn't mind trying rendering it in cinema 4d as an alternative.

nisus · August 2nd, 2002

Hi all,

Sounds like a wonderful idea for a contest imho. Someone delivers the very simple model, and everyone boosts it up with lighting, materials etc... Every participant can join once in several categories: Morning - Afternoon - Evening - Night.
Wonderful I think! A great plus is that even the most busy people can attend the contest

Lovely... are you reaching Jeff?

rgds

nisus

STRAT · August 2nd, 2002

yup, i bet he's reached

i think it a good idea.
the reason (as you say) i dont usually participate in challenges is because i literally have no time, but if there was a supplied model and it was say a lighting excersize i'd love to participate.

i like nisus' idea of different times of day too

Cesar R · August 2nd, 2002

Ok, well if its just a contest, then there is no learning experience involbed for everyone else on the outside to benefit from. We can make this a contest, and then host the winning file for download so anyone can take it apart an examine it. That way we both have fun and learn from others without defeating Matt's idea, thus making this event a fun learning experience.

Does anyone follow my opp?

STRAT · August 2nd, 2002

cesar - i dont like a 'who's the best' race anyway. you're right, it should be a learning experiance where we post up WIPs and tips and methodology all through the process to help each other out.

matt_vinoir · August 4th, 2002

I'm glad you like the idea. Basically, like i said this would be a two tier project. First of all, for images produced that are effective and give a good feel ( not ness the best or most complex etc.) would make excellent files to disect. Material levels, what lighting etc. radiosity settings. ( not just viz 4 i'm not biased honest strat!!)

Secondly, and importantly for those who can produce competent images already. its a challenge to make intriguing images (at different times of the day, like is nisus)
with a simle palette for a model. My reasons for thesimple model are as you side, time. I have virtually none!!

Well, jeff post up a message if you think we should give it a go.

Cesar R · August 4th, 2002

I can't wait..

STRAT · August 4th, 2002

me neither

i'm off on leave this comming week, but it'll give me an interesting project to work on during my lunch hours in work.

[ August 04, 2002, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: STRAT ]

August 2nd, 2002	#3 (permalink)
STRAT Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK. Age: 36 Posts: 6,488 Name: Stephen Leworthy	sounds like a good idea. i dont use viz4 but i wouldn't mind trying rendering it in cinema 4d as an alternative. __________________

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nisus Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gent Flanders Belgium Europe Age: 32 Posts: 3,276 Name: Evert Vandenberghe	Hi all, Sounds like a wonderful idea for a contest imho. Someone delivers the very simple model, and everyone boosts it up with lighting, materials etc... Every participant can join once in several categories: Morning - Afternoon - Evening - Night. Wonderful I think! A great plus is that even the most busy people can attend the contest Lovely... are you reaching Jeff? rgds nisus __________________ www.ams.be / www.nisusarts.com http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=nisusCGA&p=r

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STRAT Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK. Age: 36 Posts: 6,488 Name: Stephen Leworthy	yup, i bet he's reached i think it a good idea. the reason (as you say) i dont usually participate in challenges is because i literally have no time, but if there was a supplied model and it was say a lighting excersize i'd love to participate. i like nisus' idea of different times of day too __________________

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Cesar R Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 876 Name: Cesar Rullier	Ok, well if its just a contest, then there is no learning experience involbed for everyone else on the outside to benefit from. We can make this a contest, and then host the winning file for download so anyone can take it apart an examine it. That way we both have fun and learn from others without defeating Matt's idea, thus making this event a fun learning experience. Does anyone follow my opp? __________________ Xeon 5130 : Revit + 3DSMax Architecture Student / Autodesk BSD AE ------------------------------------------ Fa5 - Honda Civic Si

August 2nd, 2002	#7 (permalink)
STRAT Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK. Age: 36 Posts: 6,488 Name: Stephen Leworthy	cesar - i dont like a 'who's the best' race anyway. you're right, it should be a learning experiance where we post up WIPs and tips and methodology all through the process to help each other out. __________________

August 2nd, 2002	#1 (permalink)
matt_vinoir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: england Posts: 316 Name: matt vinoir	this image is a max model in final render. The archictecture is by alberto campo beaza. It is so nice. Just the sort of light quality i want. Tell me if this is stupid but, the actual building is really simple. What do you think if i were to model it and then for guys on here to import the model into viz and try to get a similar effect. This would be a learning tool for people like me just starting. We could then look at the files or read about what material settings were used for radioity. Lighting reflects textures etc. that makes it achievable. I think if i were to understand a few simple parameters that you guys use to make it look convincing i would be able to hard a solid base to start from. At the moment i feel like a headless chicken running around clicking buttons here and there and not getting very far. The other purpose could be for experimentation on what different effects and scenes can be created with the same model. Ideas for individualirty in that sense. Is that a dumb idea? i won't be too offended honest! I have all the plans of the building an pictures so i could get it all together. I feel that with some experimentation we can get some nice exterior images. thanks for listening anyway!

August 2nd, 2002	#2 (permalink)
matt_vinoir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: england Posts: 316 Name: matt vinoir	www.trinity3d.com/images/cebas/finalrender/Outdoor_pool_tn.jpg heres the link sorry. and i put it as my pic if this is wrong

August 4th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
matt_vinoir Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: england Posts: 316 Name: matt vinoir	I'm glad you like the idea. Basically, like i said this would be a two tier project. First of all, for images produced that are effective and give a good feel ( not ness the best or most complex etc.) would make excellent files to disect. Material levels, what lighting etc. radiosity settings. ( not just viz 4 i'm not biased honest strat!!) Secondly, and importantly for those who can produce competent images already. its a challenge to make intriguing images (at different times of the day, like is nisus) with a simle palette for a model. My reasons for thesimple model are as you side, time. I have virtually none!! Well, jeff post up a message if you think we should give it a go.

August 4th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Cesar R Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Age: 26 Posts: 876 Name: Cesar Rullier	I can't wait.. __________________ Xeon 5130 : Revit + 3DSMax Architecture Student / Autodesk BSD AE ------------------------------------------ Fa5 - Honda Civic Si

August 4th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
STRAT Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cardiff, Wales, UK. Age: 36 Posts: 6,488 Name: Stephen Leworthy	me neither i'm off on leave this comming week, but it'll give me an interesting project to work on during my lunch hours in work. [ August 04, 2002, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: STRAT ] __________________

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