MR and Max 2009 - manual?

Rick Eloy · April 11th, 2008

We just got Max 2009 and I was taking a look at its new stuff... got really well impressed by MR and its new shaders and how it now blends with Max and the new frame buffer...
So, I think it's time to take a more serious try with it. Does anyone know where I can find the manual? I tried Max's docs and didn't find anything specific, so I was wondering if there's a manual somewhere.

Cheers!

lambros · April 11th, 2008

hmm, we haven't received 2009 yet, but I downloaded the demo and gave mr a try. It surely gets better with each release. I had bought the "Realistic Architectural Visualization with 3dsmax and mentalray" from Focal Press and it was very explanatory on the subject. That was for the max 9 version I believe.

Rick Eloy · April 11th, 2008

Hum... I'll take a look at it. But it seems there are some major differences from Max 9. Or not?

Brian Smith · April 11th, 2008

chris bullen wrote 4 killer mental ray chapters for our 2009 book. i hadn't spent much time using it before, but in the process of doing a copy edit i feel like i learned it very well. i've always wanted to be able to produce in mental ray what i can with vray so that i can truly compare apples to apples.

vizwhiz · April 11th, 2008

not sure about The max 2009 (havent upgraded yet, i didnt pay my yearly subscription = extortion fee) but autocad 2009 had some paper work That you could REQUEST a hardcopy manual (well you get To chose 1 out of 5 or 6 possibilitys but ONLY ONE)

i guess They are Trying To save paper while generating green = $

crazy homeless guy · April 11th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Smith

chris bullen wrote 4 killer mental ray chapters for our 2009 book. i hadn't spent much time using it before, but in the process of doing a copy edit i feel like i learned it very well. i've always wanted to be able to produce in mental ray what i can with vray so that i can truly compare apples to apples.

Is this in the Intermediate to Advanced, or the Beginner to Intermediate? ...Any idea when the Intermediate to Advanced will be ready for shipping?

Rick Eloy · April 11th, 2008

Make Travis' question mine.
Damn, Brian, you'll finally get me to buy one of your books... does it come with an autograph?

carlos cristerna · April 11th, 2008

Hey all:
I have allways been a fan of Mental Ray and like someone said mental ray gets better with every release; it is true but it has always been this good it was just a little complex for most users. it is geting easier for the architectural visualization comunity? yes...that is my impresion. there is nothing like experimenting with the render engine to learn how it works. the nice thing about it is that it gives you so much control over everything and if you are good at it you can even make it render very fast.

I am working on a tutorial of the last image I worked on with mental ray. its a very simple interior but it will help undestand at least the way I use mental ray (not that it is the right way)

Cheers

Carlos Cristerna

Rick Eloy · April 11th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlos cristerna

(...)and if you are good at it you can even make it render very fast.

Ok, that really didn't sound promising...is it still slow (meaning one has to have some deep knowledge to make it fast)?
BTW, let us know when this tutorial of yours comes out, ok?

AJLynn · April 11th, 2008

The knowledge you need to make it fast isn't really that deep. Heck, I can do it

There's a learning curve but no more so than with Vray.

April 11th, 2008	#1 (permalink)
Rick Eloy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: São Paulo, Brasil Age: 31 Posts: 2,383 Name: Ricardo Eloy	MR and Max 2009 - manual? We just got Max 2009 and I was taking a look at its new stuff... got really well impressed by MR and its new shaders and how it now blends with Max and the new frame buffer... So, I think it's time to take a more serious try with it. Does anyone know where I can find the manual? I tried Max's docs and didn't find anything specific, so I was wondering if there's a manual somewhere. Cheers! __________________ Rick Eloy reb digital - Really, I'm doing it for the kids...

April 11th, 2008	#2 (permalink)
lambros Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Athens Age: 35 Posts: 337 Name: Lambros Potamianos	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? hmm, we haven't received 2009 yet, but I downloaded the demo and gave mr a try. It surely gets better with each release. I had bought the "Realistic Architectural Visualization with 3dsmax and mentalray" from Focal Press and it was very explanatory on the subject. That was for the max 9 version I believe.

April 11th, 2008	#3 (permalink)
Rick Eloy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: São Paulo, Brasil Age: 31 Posts: 2,383 Name: Ricardo Eloy	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? Hum... I'll take a look at it. But it seems there are some major differences from Max 9. Or not? __________________ Rick Eloy reb digital - Really, I'm doing it for the kids...

April 11th, 2008	#4 (permalink)
Brian Smith Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sarasota, FL Age: 36 Posts: 1,054 Name: Brian Smith	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? chris bullen wrote 4 killer mental ray chapters for our 2009 book. i hadn't spent much time using it before, but in the process of doing a copy edit i feel like i learned it very well. i've always wanted to be able to produce in mental ray what i can with vray so that i can truly compare apples to apples. __________________ Brian Smith www.3dats.com 3D Architectural Training Solutions

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vizwhiz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: arizona usa, earth/universe Age: 56 Posts: 1,009 Name: Randy Sanders	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? not sure about The max 2009 (havent upgraded yet, i didnt pay my yearly subscription = extortion fee) but autocad 2009 had some paper work That you could REQUEST a hardcopy manual (well you get To chose 1 out of 5 or 6 possibilitys but ONLY ONE) i guess They are Trying To save paper while generating green = $

April 11th, 2008	#7 (permalink)
Rick Eloy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: São Paulo, Brasil Age: 31 Posts: 2,383 Name: Ricardo Eloy	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? Make Travis' question mine. Damn, Brian, you'll finally get me to buy one of your books... does it come with an autograph? __________________ Rick Eloy reb digital - Really, I'm doing it for the kids...

April 11th, 2008	#8 (permalink)
carlos cristerna Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Boston Age: 32 Posts: 29 Name: carlos cristerna	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? Hey all: I have allways been a fan of Mental Ray and like someone said mental ray gets better with every release; it is true but it has always been this good it was just a little complex for most users. it is geting easier for the architectural visualization comunity? yes...that is my impresion. there is nothing like experimenting with the render engine to learn how it works. the nice thing about it is that it gives you so much control over everything and if you are good at it you can even make it render very fast. I am working on a tutorial of the last image I worked on with mental ray. its a very simple interior but it will help undestand at least the way I use mental ray (not that it is the right way) Cheers Carlos Cristerna

April 11th, 2008	#10 (permalink)
AJLynn Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Beantown Age: 29 Posts: 4,426 Name: Andrew Lynn	Re: MR and Max 2009 - manual? The knowledge you need to make it fast isn't really that deep. Heck, I can do it There's a learning curve but no more so than with Vray.

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