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Old May 27th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation 3D Awards Voting Now Open

Man this was tough to put together this year. Over the last 3 days I've spent around 35 hours sifting through over 800 images and nearly 100 animations. Some great images as usual, but this year the animations have really raised the bar. Some outstanding creativity.

Obviously with this many submissions not everyone can make the final judging round of 38 animations and 261 images. Thank you to everyone who submitted images and animations.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/3dawards/scoring/

I know it's a lot of work, but please take the time to vote all of the images and animations, as it will ensure the most valid results.

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1. The images and animations are served up randomly, so everyone will receive an equal number of votes.

2. If you do not see your images or animation, it did not make it to the final voting round. Please do not email us to ask why. You are better off posting to the forums to ask for a more varied opinion. Many factors went into deciding which images and animations were accepted.
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Jeff, hello

Firstly I'd just like to say how much I appreciate your commitment to developing quality and professionalism within the industry - I learn something every time I visit CGarchitect. So, it's with a shared concern for consistency that I thought to write to you regarding the manner in which images have been displayed for scoring the Architectural 3D Awards. Unless I've missed something, it seems very difficult to establish a comparison between the submissions - short of laboriously opening a window for each image. Without being able to compare effectively, it does seem to undermine the rating each work may be allocated.

As a suggestion, if for example each of the 261 images were displayed on a single scrolling page as cropped, circular icons in a randomized order that changed for each visitor to the site, a more useful comparison would then be possible. This might usefully include the following:

--The function to display any two images in detail simultaneously.

--The display of a circle around an image indicating that it had been viewed.

--A larger circle / transparency indicating that a score had been allocated, with the score number overlaying the image icon.

I fully appreciate this would take a bit of preparation, but such an interactive template would then be quick to load for each subsequent competition and go a long way to engaging site members in the scoring process.

All the best,

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Super ..... I'm voting
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Jeff, hello

Firstly I'd just like to say how much I appreciate your commitment to developing quality and professionalism within the industry - I learn something every time I visit CGarchitect. So, it's with a shared concern for consistency that I thought to write to you regarding the manner in which images have been displayed for scoring the Architectural 3D Awards. Unless I've missed something, it seems very difficult to establish a comparison between the submissions - short of laboriously opening a window for each image. Without being able to compare effectively, it does seem to undermine the rating each work may be allocated.

As a suggestion, if for example each of the 261 images were displayed on a single scrolling page as cropped, circular icons in a randomized order that changed for each visitor to the site, a more useful comparison would then be possible. This might usefully include the following:

--The function to display any two images in detail simultaneously.

--The display of a circle around an image indicating that it had been viewed.

--A larger circle / transparency indicating that a score had been allocated, with the score number overlaying the image icon.

I fully appreciate this would take a bit of preparation, but such an interactive template would then be quick to load for each subsequent competition and go a long way to engaging site members in the scoring process.

All the best,

Hugo
Thanks Hugo,

This has been brought up in past years, but here is my argument for the way the voting has been set up. An image should not be compared against other images within the same year, but rather against what is being produced in the industry as a whole that year. Much like is done in the olympics, atheletes are scored against technical and athletic skills for what is expected of someone that year. If for example everyone messed up in their respective sports, they should all get a 1 out of 10, rather than the best mess up getting a 10. It's comes down to grading against a curve vs. grading against a current standard. I prefer the current standard.

So, in my opinion at least, you should look at an image and compare it to what you know is being produced in our industry now and score accordingly.

Thanks for the feedback.
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one of the images has come up twice in my list when voting.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/3dawards/...0submitted.jpg

i couldn't progress without submitting another vote for it, so I did.

just to let you know it was number 43 the second time it came around, can't remember the first time.
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FYI, I'm quite certain I saw two duplicate images.
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i've just seen another one for the second time (pretty certain).
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uhoh, and another one. that's 3 duplicates so far out of 60% of the way through.
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ok and another one.

i'm going to stop voting until this is fixed.

i smell a re-start
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ok and another one.

i'm going to stop voting until this is fixed.

i smell a re-start
There are a number of images that are very similar. I'll check the database, but it's almost impossible, if not totally impossible, with the way the code is set up for you to be able to vote on an image twice, unless it was submited twice and somehow got missed or your original vote was not recorded at all. To know if you did get an image voted twice you'd see something at the top that showed you voted on more images than there were entries. Even if an image was in their twice, in theory there would just be two line items of the same image right next to each other with the same score, so not a big deal. Keep voting.
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