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Old July 3rd, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation ILLEGAL solicitation for your V-Ray Dongle

A now banned member of these forums was soliciting CGA forum users to run an application on their WIBU keys to gain access to crack the software. We are currently tracing all solicitations from this member and anyone who responded. We have notified Chaos Group with this member's IP and contact information. IT IS ILLEGAL to run any third party programs that reverse engineer and/or cracks a WIBU dongle. If you replied to or emailed a user called "Benwal" we will be forwarding your name, contact information and IP address to Chaos Group for possible legal prosecution and we will aid in this endeaor in any way we can.

Anyone who posts about or replies to anything relating to illegal activities will be permanatly banned on these forms.
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Default Re: ILLEGAL solicitation for your V-Ray Dongle

Back up a minute - that's only illegal in countries with DMCA-like laws. If he's not in one of those countries, and anybody he eventually may have got to help him was not, he didn't commit any crime. (But did violate forum rules and deserves permanent bans and maybe a heads up to other forums' admins.)
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nothing like good old fashion threats of lawyers...Only in America...lol.. Yeah sue them all i say...
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nothing like good old fashion threats of lawyers...Only in America...lol.. Yeah sue them all i say...
When it comes to the blatent theft or attempted theft of someones intellectual property, damn straight the infringer should be sued and in my personal opinion imprissoned. It's theft plain and simple and a very expensive theft at that when software is cracked.

In any case the point of this post was to once again explain to this community we don't tollerate warez, cracking or pirating and I fully support handing over any information to ensure the parties responsible are held accountable. Peter and Vlado have already been advised and they have the info to do with as they see fit.
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nothing like good old fashion threats of lawyers...Only in America...lol.. Yeah sue them all i say...
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Lightbulb Re: ILLEGAL solicitation for your V-Ray Dongle

wait a miniute IP is also a human rights violation on many levels.

i subscribe fully the the pirate parties platform on this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

I sure am glad there is no hardware lock for the new Vray on Rhinoceros i don't think the users would stand for this.

ideas can not be owned according to the laws of mathematics (you know the ones the universe operates on) try as they may allot of people try to resist to enrich them selfs and prevent people of lower classes from access to the tools, but in the end that is always fruitless and a waste of energy and cuases bad feelings between people of different worldviews.
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I sure am glad there is no hardware lock for the new Vray on Rhinoceros i don't think the users would stand for this.
Why? They don't seem any more restrictive than software based licensing. With Vray for Max it seemed the only trouble was for people who didn't receive their dongles quickly - and IIRC Chaos allowed software licenses until they got it sorted out.

In some cases hardware dongles are less restrictive because the license travels with the dongle, so you can use it at home or office. And if they're harder to crack around, they're probably worthwhile - the only real problem being if it takes longer to get the license after you buy it.
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and more easily bypassed, it's already been fixed from what i know.

what ever a human can make a human can break

and you can never discount that many people got a start this way no matter how taboo it is to talk about or how upset it makes capitalists.
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If your language weren't so confusing I'd guess you were dangling on the edge of a forum rules violation.
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Theyll do what Microsoft did, make earlier versions easy(ier) to hack and wait till everyone is reliant on it, then produce a 'Genuine Software Validation/Activation Tool' to install that job critical update you need to make it render anything ever again

Truth is, warez/cracking etc has its place in the market for the reasons mentioned above - but, still doesnt make it right/legal/just/honourable, especially if youre making money from it.
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