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Jeff Mottle · September 19th, 2003

Hey Everyone,

Well it only took 7 hours, but the transition to Server 2003 is complete. You will notice a few things over the next 48 hours as the new IP propogates throughout the internet:

1. Banners will not serve until the DNS that your ISP uses is updated.

2. Images and avatars that were uploaded using our upload utility will also not show up until your ISP's DSN updates

3. The site address will show up as an IP until your ISP's DNS updates.

4. The site will be a bit slower until your ISP's DNS updates becuase we are redirecting all the traffic via the old server. There is overhead associated with this so it takes a bit longer. Once you see www.cgarchitect.com as the URL when you access our site you will be switched over

IF YOU FIND ANYTHING DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP AT: jmottle@cgarchitect.com

If you absolutley can't stand to wait edit your HOSTS file. If you don't know how. DO NOT EDIT IT! If you do, please do not forget to change it back in 48 hours.

Thanks Everyone.

Ok time to go to bed.

garethace · September 20th, 2003

Absolutely flying here over in Ireland, even on slow 56k. Are you going to do any article on the hardware used to run the site Jeff?

Jeff Mottle · September 20th, 2003

I had not planned on it, but if people are interested I could. Do you find the site to be faster now that it was before? I know I do, but I just wanted to know if it was me. Kinda like driving your car right after a car wash.

One thing that could have made a difference is that I am now hosting the MSSQL dataabse on my server. That and 2003 is known to be faster and better at memory managment. I've added more and use the same RAM, so it's gotta be true.

Ernest Burden · September 20th, 2003

faster

xgarcia · September 20th, 2003

faster here Jeff. way to go.

garethace · September 22nd, 2003

Yeah, it is faster. I used to be having real problems on 56k at home. I just hate the way the broadband thing is going in this country. They privatised the phone company, and floated it on the stock market. Now some big guy owns it and 90% of the newspapers in Ireland too!

Building a Better Web Server

I talked to guys over at aces, and they reckon, the size of CG Architect web pages could be at least halved. They are somewhere around 300kbs now, and should normally be in the region of 150kb (with Avitars etc) for vBulletin forums. Apparently the combined Avitars here are like 100KB to download on the page.

Here is the anandtech story It think it would be great to see what drives all of this stuff actually.

Jeff Mottle · September 22nd, 2003

Gareth,

Some of what they talk about will be helped when I move to vBulliten, which we are not using now, and when I re-design the back end on the ASP.NET framework. Right now the pages are the size they are because of images. They are all optimimised as much as they can be without loosing qulity, so there is not much you can do there short of HTML compression, which typically only works well on static pages.

I'm not sure where you are getting 300K becuase the home page which is the most graphic intensive is only 83K and the biggest page I have found is 214K

I'm affraid the CGA story would not be near as exciting as Anatech...I only run a single server and single processor.

It's a P4 2.4 Ghz/80 GB RAID 1 IDE/2GB RAM

Not sure how much more you would want to know. My host has Cisco 7200 Series Router with BGP4
Multi-homed and 4 Upstream providers to the site.

[ September 22, 2003, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: Jeff Mottle ]

garethace · September 22nd, 2003

I realise the fundamental conflict between web site ways to display, or navigate through visual information, and that of an Architectural presentation board. I guess we are just working around the limitations of current technology, in order to make some kind of discussion and interaction possible at all.

http://www.cgarchitect.com/ubb/ultim...623;p=1#000005

Let I speak about here. The Web site department should be a different skill from the A1 board presentation department of an Architectural firm in my view. And guys like Daniel, are now in danger of polluting their own natural presentation skills as Architects used to large format spongeboard mounted stuff, with the ideas of 15-inch screens on laptops and PDAs, super-duper picture mobile phones etc.

garethace · September 22nd, 2003

Yeah, that is good information alright. I would like to have it on a web page somewhere though, where I could link for my technical minded buddies. I am sure they might explain to me, in a way I could understand, what some of that tech-speak actually means.

kulbir bal · September 22nd, 2003

fast here in india as well. thanx jeff

September 19th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Jeff Mottle President/Founder Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 5,059 Name: Jeff Mottle	Hey Everyone, Well it only took 7 hours, but the transition to Server 2003 is complete. You will notice a few things over the next 48 hours as the new IP propogates throughout the internet: 1. Banners will not serve until the DNS that your ISP uses is updated. 2. Images and avatars that were uploaded using our upload utility will also not show up until your ISP's DSN updates 3. The site address will show up as an IP until your ISP's DNS updates. 4. The site will be a bit slower until your ISP's DNS updates becuase we are redirecting all the traffic via the old server. There is overhead associated with this so it takes a bit longer. Once you see www.cgarchitect.com as the URL when you access our site you will be switched over IF YOU FIND ANYTHING DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY PLEASE EMAIL ME ASAP AT: jmottle@cgarchitect.com If you absolutley can't stand to wait edit your HOSTS file. If you don't know how. DO NOT EDIT IT! If you do, please do not forget to change it back in 48 hours. Thanks Everyone. Ok time to go to bed. __________________ Jeff Mottle CGarchitect.com

September 20th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Jeff Mottle President/Founder Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 5,059 Name: Jeff Mottle	I had not planned on it, but if people are interested I could. Do you find the site to be faster now that it was before? I know I do, but I just wanted to know if it was me. Kinda like driving your car right after a car wash. One thing that could have made a difference is that I am now hosting the MSSQL dataabse on my server. That and 2003 is known to be faster and better at memory managment. I've added more and use the same RAM, so it's gotta be true. __________________ Jeff Mottle CGarchitect.com

September 20th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Ernest Burden Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ossining, NY USA Posts: 4,999 Name: Ernest Burden III	faster __________________ Ernest Burden III AcmeDigital architectural rendering

September 22nd, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Jeff Mottle President/Founder Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 5,059 Name: Jeff Mottle	Gareth, Some of what they talk about will be helped when I move to vBulliten, which we are not using now, and when I re-design the back end on the ASP.NET framework. Right now the pages are the size they are because of images. They are all optimimised as much as they can be without loosing qulity, so there is not much you can do there short of HTML compression, which typically only works well on static pages. I'm not sure where you are getting 300K becuase the home page which is the most graphic intensive is only 83K and the biggest page I have found is 214K I'm affraid the CGA story would not be near as exciting as Anatech...I only run a single server and single processor. It's a P4 2.4 Ghz/80 GB RAID 1 IDE/2GB RAM Not sure how much more you would want to know. My host has Cisco 7200 Series Router with BGP4 Multi-homed and 4 Upstream providers to the site. [ September 22, 2003, 07:45 AM: Message edited by: Jeff Mottle ] __________________ Jeff Mottle CGarchitect.com

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September 20th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
garethace Invalid User Profile Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 825 Name: gareth ace	Absolutely flying here over in Ireland, even on slow 56k. Are you going to do any article on the hardware used to run the site Jeff?

September 20th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
xgarcia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: FL Age: 29 Posts: 471 Name: Xavier Garcia, Jr.	faster here Jeff. way to go.

September 22nd, 2003	#6 (permalink)
garethace Invalid User Profile Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 825 Name: gareth ace	Yeah, it is faster. I used to be having real problems on 56k at home. I just hate the way the broadband thing is going in this country. They privatised the phone company, and floated it on the stock market. Now some big guy owns it and 90% of the newspapers in Ireland too! Building a Better Web Server I talked to guys over at aces, and they reckon, the size of CG Architect web pages could be at least halved. They are somewhere around 300kbs now, and should normally be in the region of 150kb (with Avitars etc) for vBulletin forums. Apparently the combined Avitars here are like 100KB to download on the page. Here is the anandtech story It think it would be great to see what drives all of this stuff actually.

September 22nd, 2003	#8 (permalink)
garethace Invalid User Profile Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 825 Name: gareth ace	I realise the fundamental conflict between web site ways to display, or navigate through visual information, and that of an Architectural presentation board. I guess we are just working around the limitations of current technology, in order to make some kind of discussion and interaction possible at all. http://www.cgarchitect.com/ubb/ultim...623;p=1#000005 Let I speak about here. The Web site department should be a different skill from the A1 board presentation department of an Architectural firm in my view. And guys like Daniel, are now in danger of polluting their own natural presentation skills as Architects used to large format spongeboard mounted stuff, with the ideas of 15-inch screens on laptops and PDAs, super-duper picture mobile phones etc.

September 22nd, 2003	#9 (permalink)
garethace Invalid User Profile Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 825 Name: gareth ace	Yeah, that is good information alright. I would like to have it on a web page somewhere though, where I could link for my technical minded buddies. I am sure they might explain to me, in a way I could understand, what some of that tech-speak actually means.

September 22nd, 2003	#10 (permalink)
kulbir bal Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: punjab Age: 30 Posts: 130 Name: kulbir bal	fast here in india as well. thanx jeff

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